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Unread 11-27-2010, 08:33 PM   #1
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Northern Lights ~ Bostjan Zupancic

Soundclick - Northern Lights by Bostjan Zupancic

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Unread 11-29-2010, 01:46 PM   #2
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Hmm, either

a) It's too mediocre to garner any comments

or

b) You guys don't like it and don't want to say anything bad.

Some background for the song:

Written by me. The inspiration for the song was the short story "Northern Lights" by Wyllis Cooper, about the northern lights and an invading species of cryogenic arthropods who use mind control to execute a plan to invade the Earth.

Recorded with:

Boss 10-track digital recorder.
Oni 7-string tuned BEADGBE (low to high)
Oni 8-string tuned BEADGBEA (low to high)
Dean Edge 6F fretless bass.
Sure SM-57LC.

All of the drums were programmed sloppy by me on the Boss recorder's built-in drum machine.

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Unread 11-29-2010, 01:53 PM   #3
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It's certainly interesting, and by that I mean it's not my typical cup of tea and thus is somewhat alien to me. The guitars sounded pretty good though, and the playing seemed to be very clean. I think with some better/different drums and a bit more bass in the mix (instrument, not freq.) it'd be even better.

I'll need to give a better listen later when I'm not hearing it through poor quality laptop speakers.

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Unread 11-29-2010, 02:34 PM   #4
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I just gave it a listen and I'll be honest.

It sound like you recorded it on a recorder totally dry, summed and then uploaded.

Now for punk acts this is generally acceptable. However a piece like this generally gets significantly more production.

The vocals need compression badly, and the guitar tracks are clipping. The playing is seriously good but its all a jumbled mess once its summed together and clipping.

I'll leave the drums alone as they are the built in drum machine.

The song has potential, but the way you are recording is limiting the potential IMO.

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Thanks guys!

So, I need some compression on the guitar?

The playing could have been a lot better. What you hear for the leads are my first and second takes dubbed together. The first take was pretty sloppy, and I was very close to leaving it out of the mix, but I thought it sounded thicker with both takes together.

Max, did you have any specific thoughts about the composition? Looking back, I guess the chord structure and meter are pretty generic. Funny how I never think of that until after the fact.

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Unread 11-29-2010, 05:07 PM   #6
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Comments are extremely elusive here. Lame, right?

Custom said what needed to be said about production, but I'm a composition nerd so I'll say a few words!

The progression is very cliche. Is that a bad thing? Only if that isn't what you were looking for. These progressions are so commonly used because, well, they work! And to be honest, I think that kind of numb corny nature of the progression suits the "story" you're telling well.

Consider making this an episode, this idea solidified by the "doomy" sections. While I normally frown upon many dry theme elements in music--as it tends to become very, very contrived--I think this is just screaming for it.

The fade is quite too sudden, in my opinion, as well.
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Unread 11-30-2010, 02:58 PM   #7
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I think I may have to start again with this one. After sinking in and listening to it again myself, I'm not 100% satisfied with the rhythm guitar tone. I likely would not have ever listened to it as critically if it was not for you, and I thank you for that.

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Unread 11-30-2010, 07:13 PM   #8
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I can't really give you any advice on recording with a recorder as from my year of experience trying to make it work, I realized its just WAY too ....ing hard to record, mix and sum on a recorder.

My opinion is Ditch the box and get a proper computer based setup.

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