In need of digital amplification...

JamesM · 05-29-2010, 02:07 PM

Hey there guys, first post! Schecter Loomis-7 NT is in the mail, get here dammit!

Anyway, I run a home studio and am taking a few things with me away to college. Profire 2626 Pro Tools 7.4 LE run.

But I am facing a dilemma... I can't bring my B-52 AT-100 with my Marshall 412 to a dorm room! Not even a small amp will do it. I need some kind of rack or virtual amplification. Now, I've seen the Axe-FX (My goal tone being Keith Merrow's, honestly) but I haven't the time, or the money honestly. I need a DI solution to do my recording for a tight, smooth metal sound.

Help! Thank you.

Sam.

Vangoatguitar · 05-29-2010, 02:47 PM

The cheapest and most effective thing I can think of is get a used Line 6 pod of some sort and get friendly with Impulse's.

JJ Rodriguez · 05-29-2010, 02:50 PM

GSP1101 would do the trick for you. I didn't particularly like the one I had (being used to an Axe FX) but I would rate it well above anything Line 6 has ever done. If you want a rig you could potentially use live, the GSP1101 and a solid state power amp like the Carvin DCM would do great.

I used a Carvin DCM and the Axe with a 4x12 and it sounded great even at bedroom volumes, and you could run the 1101 direct as well.

JamesM · 05-29-2010, 02:56 PM

JJ,

Have you any recordings of the GSP1101?

JJ Rodriguez · 05-29-2010, 02:59 PM

Nope. I also don't have any recordings with the Axe, or my current rig.

Surprisingly, running an all tube rig now sounds great at bedroom volumes now.

[/showingoff]

I play this thing whisper quiet and it sounds great, but once you crank it up it explodes babies. I know. I've done it. The cleanup sucked though.

JamesM · 05-29-2010, 03:00 PM

Yeah, but it is always worth it.

Look at you, rubbing that Axe-FX in my face! Oh how I crrrrrave it!

JJ Rodriguez · 05-29-2010, 03:01 PM

Yeah, but if you're a student and you're on a budget, I'm sure the GSP1101 would do you just fine.

JamesM · 05-29-2010, 03:03 PM

Thank you, that is quite a bargain if it really is as good as you say it is.

JJ Rodriguez · 05-29-2010, 03:07 PM

The thing is is that I never played too much with the amp models on it. I was using it for effects like I am with the Axe using the 4 cable method. I wasn't too thrilled with the effects. I sold the Ultra and bought the 1101 to try and free up about $1500

I tried it before hand and thought I could live with it, but the effects routing isn't that fantastic, and I was thrilled with the quality of effects either, the Axe spoiled me

So I sold it off and bought my Axe back.

Do you need crazy effects, and any kind of flexibility in routing them? If you do, the 1101 might not be your cup of tea. If you just want simple reverb and delay, and some amp models to run direct, it would get the job done for you. I didn't expect the 1101 to be on par with the Axe (as no one should for the price difference

) but I didn't really need the cash that bad and could live with the price difference. Then again, I work a full time job that pays decently, and live at home rent free

13point9 · 05-29-2010, 03:09 PM

can you have 2 effect paths on the GSP? so route delays via the loop and OD/ Dist through the input?

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JamesM · 05-29-2010, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Rodriguez

The thing is is that I never played too much with the amp models on it. I was using it for effects like I am with the Axe using the 4 cable method. I wasn't too thrilled with the effects. I sold the Ultra and bought the 1101 to try and free up about $1500

I tried it before hand and thought I could live with it, but the effects routing isn't that fantastic, and I was thrilled with the quality of effects either, the Axe spoiled me

So I sold it off and bought my Axe back.

Do you need crazy effects, and any kind of flexibility in routing them? If you do, the 1101 might not be your cup of tea. If you just want simple reverb and delay, and some amp models to run direct, it would get the job done for you. I didn't expect the 1101 to be on par with the Axe (as no one should for the price difference

) but I didn't really need the cash that bad and could live with the price difference. Then again, I work a full time job that pays decently, and live at home rent free

Lol. I use essentially NO effects and all delay and reverb will be with all my Waves plugins. All I need is a freakin' fantastic guitar tone!

JJ Rodriguez · 05-29-2010, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13point9

can you have 2 effect paths on the GSP? so route delays via the loop and OD/ Dist through the input?

[/thread hijack]

I'm pretty sure you can't, but I'll let someone a bit more knowledgable about the unit answer that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Armada

Lol. I use essentially NO effects and all delay and reverb will be with all my Waves plugins. All I need is a freakin' fantastic guitar tone!

Then it should do you just fine.

JamesM · 05-29-2010, 03:16 PM

Yesssss. Lol.

13point9 · 05-29-2010, 03:29 PM

Just read up on it, 4 cable works on the 1101

JJ Rodriguez · 05-29-2010, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13point9

Just read up on it, 4 cable works on the 1101

Oh sorry, I thought you were talking about running 2 different effects paths, not the 4 cable method. I used it with the 4 cable method just fine.

13point9 · 05-29-2010, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Rodriguez

Oh sorry, I thought you were talking about running 2 different effects paths, not the 4 cable method. I used it with the 4 cable method just fine.

well i just read that when you do 4 cable it routes the delys and time based effects to the loop and OD and distortion go into the input, that all I want to do really and apparently this does it via 4 cable, sorry if my wording is bad, really new to effects processors

JJ Rodriguez · 05-29-2010, 03:38 PM

It's okay, we all have character flaws. Except me. I'm ....ing perfect.

troyguitar · 05-29-2010, 03:39 PM

If you don't care about spillover delay when switching patches, something like an RP255 will get you the same exact tone as an 1101 for a stupidly small amount of money.

13point9 · 05-29-2010, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Rodriguez

It's okay, we all have character flaws. Except me. I'm ....ing perfect.

I actually have no retort to that

I would mention about this pedovan thing but as I used to get ribbed about my missus being small, chinese and well, young looking I dont have a leg to stand on

JamesM · 05-29-2010, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Rodriguez

It's okay, we all have character flaws. Except me. I'm ....ing perfect.

Lol. Agreed?

Quote:

Originally Posted by troyguitar

If you don't care about spillover delay when switching patches, something like an RP255 will get you the same exact tone as an 1101 for a stupidly small amount of money.

Really? The same? Hmmm... It is ugly compared to how the GSP1101 would look in my rack, but that is stupidly cheap. Can anyone forsee any problems with this?

JJ Rodriguez · 05-29-2010, 03:47 PM

I've heard it has the same modeling, but I'm partial to rack stuff. Depends if you ever think you might want to use it as a live rig with a power amp, which you could do with the RP, just with more cables running back to a power amp. Just depends if you want to go rack mount or not.

JJ Rodriguez · 05-29-2010, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13point9

I would mention about this pedovan thing but as I used to get ribbed about my missus being small, chinese and well, young looking I dont have a leg to stand on

It's okay, my woman is 7 years younger than me

JamesM · 05-29-2010, 04:24 PM

Thanks again guys! Sounds good.

troyguitar · 05-29-2010, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Armada

Really? The same? Hmmm... It is ugly compared to how the GSP1101 would look in my rack, but that is stupidly cheap. Can anyone forsee any problems with this?

Yeah I owned both the RP250 and the 1101 at the same time and the tone was identical. Grab a 250 or 255 off eBay for <$100 and leave it in your dorm room is what I would do (it's what I did, actually

). I still use my 250 for bedroom jamming. Use the DigiTech as your audio in/out interface via USB on the laptop and then either the headphone or 1/4" outs to some cheap monitors = best cheap-ass bedroom setup out there

AustinW90 · 05-29-2010, 10:09 PM

You can always try the software route. Line6 Podfarm, Guitar Rig, Peavey Revalver, etc...

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05-29-2010, 02:07 PM	#1
JamesM The Armada Join Date: May 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 6,925 Thanked: 86 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	In need of digital amplification... Hey there guys, first post! Schecter Loomis-7 NT is in the mail, get here dammit! Anyway, I run a home studio and am taking a few things with me away to college. Profire 2626 Pro Tools 7.4 LE run. But I am facing a dilemma... I can't bring my B-52 AT-100 with my Marshall 412 to a dorm room! Not even a small amp will do it. I need some kind of rack or virtual amplification. Now, I've seen the Axe-FX (My goal tone being Keith Merrow's, honestly) but I haven't the time, or the money honestly. I need a DI solution to do my recording for a tight, smooth metal sound. Help! Thank you. Sam.

05-29-2010, 03:09 PM	#10
13point9 Now with Less Hair! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: London Posts: 1,874 Thanked: 66 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	can you have 2 effect paths on the GSP? so route delays via the loop and OD/ Dist through the input? [/thread hijack] "I won't be satisfied until somebody can whammy a whole piano." Pink Freud ".... that, I'd rather eat 20 pounds of steak and then prove how jacked I am by having angry sex with their mothers whilst curling 200 pounds and drinking ale." maliciousteve

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13point9 Now with Less Hair! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: London Posts: 1,874 Thanked: 66 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Just read up on it, 4 cable works on the 1101 "I won't be satisfied until somebody can whammy a whole piano." Pink Freud ".... that, I'd rather eat 20 pounds of steak and then prove how jacked I am by having angry sex with their mothers whilst curling 200 pounds and drinking ale." maliciousteve

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05-29-2010, 02:47 PM	#2
Vangoatguitar Rational Gayz Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Grand Haven, MI Posts: 92 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The cheapest and most effective thing I can think of is get a used Line 6 pod of some sort and get friendly with Impulse's.

05-29-2010, 02:50 PM	#3
JJ Rodriguez Pantysniffing zombie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 11,705 Thanked: 82 Feedback Score: 18 reviews	GSP1101 would do the trick for you. I didn't particularly like the one I had (being used to an Axe FX) but I would rate it well above anything Line 6 has ever done. If you want a rig you could potentially use live, the GSP1101 and a solid state power amp like the Carvin DCM would do great. I used a Carvin DCM and the Axe with a 4x12 and it sounded great even at bedroom volumes, and you could run the 1101 direct as well.

05-29-2010, 02:56 PM	#4
JamesM The Armada Join Date: May 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 6,925 Thanked: 86 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	JJ, Have you any recordings of the GSP1101?

05-29-2010, 02:59 PM	#5
JJ Rodriguez Pantysniffing zombie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 11,705 Thanked: 82 Feedback Score: 18 reviews	Nope. I also don't have any recordings with the Axe, or my current rig. Surprisingly, running an all tube rig now sounds great at bedroom volumes now. [/showingoff] I play this thing whisper quiet and it sounds great, but once you crank it up it explodes babies. I know. I've done it. The cleanup sucked though.

05-29-2010, 03:00 PM	#6
JamesM The Armada Join Date: May 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 6,925 Thanked: 86 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Yeah, but it is always worth it. Look at you, rubbing that Axe-FX in my face! Oh how I crrrrrave it!

05-29-2010, 03:01 PM	#7
JJ Rodriguez Pantysniffing zombie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 11,705 Thanked: 82 Feedback Score: 18 reviews	Yeah, but if you're a student and you're on a budget, I'm sure the GSP1101 would do you just fine.

05-29-2010, 03:03 PM	#8
JamesM The Armada Join Date: May 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 6,925 Thanked: 86 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Thank you, that is quite a bargain if it really is as good as you say it is.

05-29-2010, 03:07 PM	#9
JJ Rodriguez Pantysniffing zombie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 11,705 Thanked: 82 Feedback Score: 18 reviews	The thing is is that I never played too much with the amp models on it. I was using it for effects like I am with the Axe using the 4 cable method. I wasn't too thrilled with the effects. I sold the Ultra and bought the 1101 to try and free up about $1500 I tried it before hand and thought I could live with it, but the effects routing isn't that fantastic, and I was thrilled with the quality of effects either, the Axe spoiled me So I sold it off and bought my Axe back. Do you need crazy effects, and any kind of flexibility in routing them? If you do, the 1101 might not be your cup of tea. If you just want simple reverb and delay, and some amp models to run direct, it would get the job done for you. I didn't expect the 1101 to be on par with the Axe (as no one should for the price difference ) but I didn't really need the cash that bad and could live with the price difference. Then again, I work a full time job that pays decently, and live at home rent free

05-29-2010, 03:16 PM	#13
JamesM The Armada Join Date: May 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 6,925 Thanked: 86 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Yesssss. Lol.

05-29-2010, 03:38 PM	#17
JJ Rodriguez Pantysniffing zombie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 11,705 Thanked: 82 Feedback Score: 18 reviews	It's okay, we all have character flaws. Except me. I'm ....ing perfect.

05-29-2010, 03:47 PM	#21
JJ Rodriguez Pantysniffing zombie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 11,705 Thanked: 82 Feedback Score: 18 reviews	I've heard it has the same modeling, but I'm partial to rack stuff. Depends if you ever think you might want to use it as a live rig with a power amp, which you could do with the RP, just with more cables running back to a power amp. Just depends if you want to go rack mount or not.

05-29-2010, 04:24 PM	#23
JamesM The Armada Join Date: May 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 6,925 Thanked: 86 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Thanks again guys! Sounds good.

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