New Idoler EP Track Posted! old tune w/ new mix/tone! Crushing Djent!! (POD X3, DFHS)

Slampop · 11-26-2009, 05:56 AM

MIX HAS BEEN UPDATED w/teh FATNESS!!! 11/05/09

i didn't want to start a new thread for this...so if anyone gets back to this one by any chance and checks it out, let me know what you guys think!

**original message**
hey dudes, due to some unfortunate circumstances i haven't been too active on the forum lately, but i have a butt-load of new material and after chatting with a few ss.orgers i was inspired to get back on the horse and post something! yay! so before i record a new track i wanted to get a "crushing" mix and tone for it, so i rerecorded "Relentless!" some of you might have heard this tune, but i think it's muuuch better now, it's like a whole new song imo! haha! anyway, hope you guys dig it!

this is the fifth song for the EP duders, and is also very close to being the final mix for the whole thing!

Cheers dudes!

"Relentless" of uber Fatness!!!(Updated mix)
SoundClick artist: Idoler - Soundclick Page for Artist: Idoler_enjoy my personal music and other productions!

Sliggy · 11-26-2009, 06:05 AM

holy shit.

AlexThorpe · 11-26-2009, 06:05 AM

This song is awesome! I really like the drum programming, and the guitar tone is incredible.

Sliggy · 11-26-2009, 06:05 AM

though the snare seems to lack power (imo). especially compared to the MONSTROUS guitars. sounds a little distant. everything else is fuckin' perfection.

Slampop · 11-26-2009, 06:19 AM

thanks guys

sliggy- hahaha, really? i felt the snare was "too" upfront if anything

Sliggy · 11-26-2009, 06:30 AM

Nah the volume is fine. I didn't mean power as in presence, I just meant thickness / fatness. I'm very particular with snares though and basically only like one type of sound so it could just be some random douche sharing a personal preference (in this case the douche being me) but yeah, I just think it needs some fatness. It sounds like it's tuned tight as a nun's asshole and being struck with a writing pen.

Oh and I didn't mean distant as in too far back behind the mix, I just meant that it sounds as if the mic used to capture it was too far away. There's a lot of "space" between where it's been struck and where it's been received. This is just how it sounds, I realize it's MIDI and that the sample was probably recorded fine.

If you listen to your mix for a bit and then cut straight to any of the following mixes you might see what I mean.

SoundClick artist: Chad Haynes Solo - Check out my music! Leave comments! - My snare sound.
SoundClick artist: Bulb - Hello! I am Bulb! Enjoy the tunes! - Bulb's snare.
SoundClick artist: Chimp Spanner - Progressive rock, metal and fusion from your friendly neighbourhood simian. - Chimp_Spanner's snare.

All different artists with different snares, but they all have more fatness than yours. A quality they share and thus something I felt worthy of pointing out.

Not to take away from your efforts though, shit sounds HUGE / awesome. The first panned guitar sounds like it might be clipping a little, but I'm not 100% sure that it's not just that I've got my headphone amp set on too high. Other mixes I listen to don't do that though so you might double check.

turd85 · 11-26-2009, 06:31 AM

Wow! This is one brutal muthafucka!!

Guitar tone is sick and crushing indeed. I also dig those drums!

Slampop · 11-26-2009, 06:37 AM

sliggy- umm, thanks, but the DW snare tends to be a bit more pappy as opposed to the huge smack of the sonor or pearl snare in dfhs. i guess we'll just chalk it up to preference for this particular track...i like to experiment. if you listen to my last track on my soundclick page "At Your Se7en" you'll notice the snare has more "power" and "smack." but for this track, i wanted a tight and bouncy snare sound. thanks for the feedback though dude.

turd85- thank you sir!

Sliggy · 11-26-2009, 06:41 AM

Yeah I'm a close-minded fool when it comes to snare tones. Just thought I'd throw it out there. The track's fucking awesome though dude, great job!

FourFour · 11-26-2009, 06:44 AM

Listening to both the old and new mix. This one definitely sounds VERY polished and wholesome. What can I say... your new mix beats the crap out of the old one. Seriously.

Slampop · 11-26-2009, 06:49 AM

FourFour- thanks dude! i'm hoping i can get around to recording some new material with this mix soon!

Zami77 · 11-26-2009, 08:25 AM

seriously heavy and chunky as hell. I can see where sliggy is coming off saying the snare doesnt have a lot of fatness, but thats not necesarily bad, just a different style. Also that guitar tone is so freaking heavy, was it just acheived with the pod x3 or were impulses used?

iceythe · 11-26-2009, 09:13 AM

Sneaking in a comment here..

Slampop, WB!!

First up, drums are just massive. Cymbals and OH are right where it should be, atleast for your own niche. If one could copyright the way a mix sounds, this would be yours. I personally love the snare ring. There's so much space availible in center, the snare fills the room nicely.

Writing wise this song is heavy from start to end. There is less thematic changes here than your previous work, but it works as a passage track. A very heavy one..

You planning on doing vox on any of your late tracks?

IamLukas · 11-26-2009, 10:37 AM

Uhhhh this.....is.....fucking....masssiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiive

.
I alway enjoy your tunes much, but this time I enjoyed it that much that I had to download it and listen to it again and again...this rocks so hard!
Pretty awesome balance and mix you have here bro, kudos!
I can't wait for my Axe-fx, I ordered yesterday

. They told me that it'll arrive today, but still nothing

....maybe tomorrow hehe. And then I'll be back with some music too yeahuuu.
Anyways great job dudemeister!

Tyrant · 11-26-2009, 11:06 AM

Triple7 · 11-26-2009, 12:29 PM

Damn Josh, you killed it again! Crushing tone as usual, and just an overall awesome tune, keep up the good work brother

PirateMetalTroy · 11-26-2009, 12:36 PM

I liked the old mix better.

Slampop · 11-26-2009, 01:02 PM

Thanks duders!

Zami77- no impulses dude, just the POD X3.

iceythe- oh yes, i plan on laying down teh vox on this! the goal is during my Christmas break.

IamLukas- nice dude, can't wait to hear your new stuff with the Axe fx!

s_the_fallen · 11-26-2009, 01:10 PM

balls to the wall heavy! This is something serious you got going on. Job well done my friend!

Zami77 · 11-26-2009, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slampop

Thanks duders!

Zami77- no impulses dude, just the POD X3.

iceythe- oh yes, i plan on laying down teh vox on this! the goal is during my Christmas break.

IamLukas- nice dude, can't wait to hear your new stuff with the Axe fx!

This is most certainly sealing the deal of me buying a pod x3. (most likely pro) I know i wont get tone like you easily, but its nice to know monstrous tones are possible, and ive heard pods sound so good in so many songs, im convinced. sicks song again bro

bulb · 11-26-2009, 01:19 PM

nicely done dude, id have to say the highlight of this is definitely the guitar tone, probably one of the best x3 tones i have ever heard and lord knows i never got my x3 sounding that good! nice jorb!

Dei · 11-26-2009, 03:02 PM

Damn homie, damn. Amazing mix! I liked everything, including the the badass snare.

Cynic · 11-26-2009, 04:18 PM

This kicked my ass.

Radicz0r · 11-26-2009, 04:57 PM

*flashes gang signs* ooooooohhhh shit!

Slampop · 11-26-2009, 05:49 PM

oh fa sho bitches!! haha

...thank you guys.

zami77- yea dude, decent POD tones are possible with a crapload of TLC (a.k.a. all your free time for eternity!!! mwahahaha)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulb

probably one of the best x3 tones i have ever heard and lord knows i never got my x3 sounding that good! nice jorb!

what!? no way bro, your POD tone drinks of god juice and feeds from the dreams of innocent children! it inspired me to shamelessly craft mine around its ultimate pwnage.

seriously dude...thank you

11-26-2009, 05:56 AM	#1
Slampop Artist: Idoler Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Alameda, Ca Posts: 1,102 Thanked: 37	New Idoler EP Track Posted! old tune w/ new mix/tone! Crushing Djent!! (POD X3, DFHS) *MIX HAS BEEN UPDATED w/teh FATNESS!!! 11/05/09* i didn't want to start a new thread for this...so if anyone gets back to this one by any chance and checks it out, let me know what you guys think! original message hey dudes, due to some unfortunate circumstances i haven't been too active on the forum lately, but i have a butt-load of new material and after chatting with a few ss.orgers i was inspired to get back on the horse and post something! yay! so before i record a new track i wanted to get a "crushing" mix and tone for it, so i rerecorded "Relentless!" some of you might have heard this tune, but i think it's muuuch better now, it's like a whole new song imo! haha! anyway, hope you guys dig it! this is the fifth song for the EP duders, and is also very close to being the final mix for the whole thing! Cheers dudes! *"Relentless" of uber Fatness!!!*(Updated mix) SoundClick artist: Idoler - Soundclick Page for Artist: Idoler_enjoy my personal music and other productions! __________________ my soundclick page http://www.soundclick.com/Idoler my myspace page www.myspace.com/idoler1 my old band page www.myspace.com/houseofatreus1 "Don't be a fool!...He'll kill us all."

11-26-2009, 06:05 AM	#2
Sliggy ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 365 Thanked: 40	holy shit. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/chadhaynessolo http://www.soundclick.com/chadhaynessolo

11-26-2009, 06:05 AM	#4
Sliggy ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 365 Thanked: 40	though the snare seems to lack power (imo). especially compared to the MONSTROUS guitars. sounds a little distant. everything else is fuckin' perfection. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/chadhaynessolo http://www.soundclick.com/chadhaynessolo

11-26-2009, 06:19 AM	#5
Slampop Artist: Idoler Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Alameda, Ca Posts: 1,102 Thanked: 37	thanks guys sliggy- hahaha, really? i felt the snare was "too" upfront if anything __________________ my soundclick page http://www.soundclick.com/Idoler my myspace page www.myspace.com/idoler1 my old band page www.myspace.com/houseofatreus1 "Don't be a fool!...He'll kill us all."

11-26-2009, 06:30 AM	#6
Sliggy ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 365 Thanked: 40	Nah the volume is fine. I didn't mean power as in presence, I just meant thickness / fatness. I'm very particular with snares though and basically only like one type of sound so it could just be some random douche sharing a personal preference (in this case the douche being me) but yeah, I just think it needs some fatness. It sounds like it's tuned tight as a nun's asshole and being struck with a writing pen. Oh and I didn't mean distant as in too far back behind the mix, I just meant that it sounds as if the mic used to capture it was too far away. There's a lot of "space" between where it's been struck and where it's been received. This is just how it sounds, I realize it's MIDI and that the sample was probably recorded fine. If you listen to your mix for a bit and then cut straight to any of the following mixes you might see what I mean. SoundClick artist: Chad Haynes Solo - Check out my music! Leave comments! - My snare sound. SoundClick artist: Bulb - Hello! I am Bulb! Enjoy the tunes! - Bulb's snare. SoundClick artist: Chimp Spanner - Progressive rock, metal and fusion from your friendly neighbourhood simian. - Chimp_Spanner's snare. All different artists with different snares, but they all have more fatness than yours. A quality they share and thus something I felt worthy of pointing out. Not to take away from your efforts though, shit sounds HUGE / awesome. The first panned guitar sounds like it might be clipping a little, but I'm not 100% sure that it's not just that I've got my headphone amp set on too high. Other mixes I listen to don't do that though so you might double check. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/chadhaynessolo http://www.soundclick.com/chadhaynessolo

11-26-2009, 06:05 AM	#3
AlexThorpe 7 string bassist Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 52 Thanked: 2	This song is awesome! I really like the drum programming, and the guitar tone is incredible.

11-26-2009, 06:31 AM	#7
turd85 Kalmari Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 291 Thanked: 19	Wow! This is one brutal muthafucka!! Guitar tone is sick and crushing indeed. I also dig those drums!

11-26-2009, 06:37 AM	#8
Slampop Artist: Idoler Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Alameda, Ca Posts: 1,102 Thanked: 37	sliggy- umm, thanks, but the DW snare tends to be a bit more pappy as opposed to the huge smack of the sonor or pearl snare in dfhs. i guess we'll just chalk it up to preference for this particular track...i like to experiment. if you listen to my last track on my soundclick page "At Your Se7en" you'll notice the snare has more "power" and "smack." but for this track, i wanted a tight and bouncy snare sound. thanks for the feedback though dude. turd85- thank you sir! __________________ my soundclick page http://www.soundclick.com/Idoler my myspace page www.myspace.com/idoler1 my old band page www.myspace.com/houseofatreus1 "Don't be a fool!...He'll kill us all."

11-26-2009, 06:41 AM	#9
Sliggy ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 365 Thanked: 40	Yeah I'm a close-minded fool when it comes to snare tones. Just thought I'd throw it out there. The track's fucking awesome though dude, great job! __________________ http://www.myspace.com/chadhaynessolo http://www.soundclick.com/chadhaynessolo

11-26-2009, 06:44 AM	#10
FourFour 4/4 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The Army Posts: 447 Thanked: 19	Listening to both the old and new mix. This one definitely sounds VERY polished and wholesome. What can I say... your new mix beats the crap out of the old one. Seriously. __________________ http://www.soundclick.com/bands/defa...?bandID=827542 http://www.myspace.com/ontolodox

11-26-2009, 06:49 AM	#11
Slampop Artist: Idoler Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Alameda, Ca Posts: 1,102 Thanked: 37	FourFour- thanks dude! i'm hoping i can get around to recording some new material with this mix soon! __________________ my soundclick page http://www.soundclick.com/Idoler my myspace page www.myspace.com/idoler1 my old band page www.myspace.com/houseofatreus1 "Don't be a fool!...He'll kill us all."

11-26-2009, 08:25 AM	#12
Zami77 Recording Bro Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: New York Posts: 388 Thanked: 5	seriously heavy and chunky as hell. I can see where sliggy is coming off saying the snare doesnt have a lot of fatness, but thats not necesarily bad, just a different style. Also that guitar tone is so freaking heavy, was it just acheived with the pod x3 or were impulses used? __________________ My Soundclick: www.soundclick.com/strayingminds My Youtube: www.youtube.com/rushrocks77 My Music Blog: www.lungaromusic.blogspot.com

11-26-2009, 09:13 AM	#13
iceythe ss.org Regular Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Nordland, NO Posts: 184 Thanked: 8	Sneaking in a comment here.. Slampop, WB!! First up, drums are just massive. Cymbals and OH are right where it should be, atleast for your own niche. If one could copyright the way a mix sounds, this would be yours. I personally love the snare ring. There's so much space availible in center, the snare fills the room nicely. Writing wise this song is heavy from start to end. There is less thematic changes here than your previous work, but it works as a passage track. A very heavy one.. You planning on doing vox on any of your late tracks? __________________ iceythe on soundclick iceythe on myspace

11-26-2009, 10:37 AM	#14
IamLukas ss.org Regular Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mainz Posts: 479 Thanked: 60	Uhhhh this.....is.....fucking....masssiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiive . I alway enjoy your tunes much, but this time I enjoyed it that much that I had to download it and listen to it again and again...this rocks so hard! Pretty awesome balance and mix you have here bro, kudos! I can't wait for my Axe-fx, I ordered yesterday . They told me that it'll arrive today, but still nothing ....maybe tomorrow hehe. And then I'll be back with some music too yeahuuu. Anyways great job dudemeister!

11-26-2009, 11:06 AM	#15
Tyrant ss.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Norway Posts: 456 Thanked: 6

11-26-2009, 12:29 PM	#16
Triple7 The Decepticon Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Yorktown,NY Posts: 2,125 Thanked: 23	Damn Josh, you killed it again! Crushing tone as usual, and just an overall awesome tune, keep up the good work brother __________________ www.soundclick.com/brianharrigan www.facebook.com/SwallowTheOcean www.myspace.com/swallowtheocean For fans of Cult Of Luna, Isis, and Tool

11-26-2009, 12:36 PM	#17
PirateMetalTroy Fire! Battle! Metal! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: London, ON (Canada) Posts: 953 Thanked: 41	I liked the old mix better.

11-26-2009, 01:02 PM	#18
Slampop Artist: Idoler Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Alameda, Ca Posts: 1,102 Thanked: 37	Thanks duders! Zami77- no impulses dude, just the POD X3. iceythe- oh yes, i plan on laying down teh vox on this! the goal is during my Christmas break. IamLukas- nice dude, can't wait to hear your new stuff with the Axe fx! __________________ my soundclick page http://www.soundclick.com/Idoler my myspace page www.myspace.com/idoler1 my old band page www.myspace.com/houseofatreus1 "Don't be a fool!...He'll kill us all."

11-26-2009, 01:10 PM	#19
s_the_fallen Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 270 Thanked: 5	balls to the wall heavy! This is something serious you got going on. Job well done my friend!

11-26-2009, 01:19 PM	#21
bulb Join Date: May 2006 Location: Washington DC Posts: 2,844 Thanked: 157	nicely done dude, id have to say the highlight of this is definitely the guitar tone, probably one of the best x3 tones i have ever heard and lord knows i never got my x3 sounding that good! nice jorb! __________________ Walk with me! www.myspace.com/iambulb www.myspace.com/periphery www.soundclick.com/bulb

11-26-2009, 03:02 PM	#22
Dei Doomjent Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 190 Thanked: 13	Damn homie, damn. Amazing mix! I liked everything, including the the badass snare. __________________ Machine of Macabre - http://www.myspace.com/machineofmacabre http://www.soundclick.com/bands/defa...?bandID=900947

11-26-2009, 04:18 PM	#23
Cynic Cpt. Nerdrage Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 687 Thanked: 38	This kicked my ass.

11-26-2009, 04:57 PM	#24
Radicz0r Worst Dude Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Eindhoven, NL Posts: 229 Thanked: 4	flashes gang signs ooooooohhhh shit! __________________ www.soundclick.com/jacklupino New stuff added on a weekly basis, i hope. DAMN you writer's block!

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