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Unread 08-27-2008, 03:04 AM   #1
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Switzerland does not rule out talking to bin Laden

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Switzerland's foreign minister on Monday broke with the country's tradition of studiously discrete diplomacy by raising the possibility of direct talks with Osama bin Laden to tackle global terrorism.





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Unread 08-27-2008, 03:13 AM   #2
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What would talks with this man accomplish?
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What would talks with this man accomplish?
"Ah, yes, you will help make it easier to destroy your nation by doing this and this and this."
"Mr. Bin Laden, those are excellent suggestions."
"And after I have destroyed you infidels, I will then ask those of you still alive to help me prepare my attacks on your neighbors."
"But of course, Mr. Bin Laden."
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I felt dumber after reading that. Is this woman serious? I can KIND OF understand what she's getting at, but....seriously...what actual good would come of this?
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Clearly this is a trick, they get him on the phone and then BAM! They track him back to a phone box in Wales and cherry bomb the area.

Otherwise I don't see how it can do much help.
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Clearly this is a trick, they get him on the phone and then BAM! They track him back to a phone box in Wales and cherry bomb the area.

Otherwise I don't see how it can do much help.
You just want someone to bomb Wales don't you...?

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You just want someone to bomb Wales don't you...?
Can you blame him?
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What would talks with this man accomplish?
getting him in a room within arms reach

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getting him in a room within arms reach

RIP bin laden
Like he'd let himself be unguarded, and killing him would no nothing but make him a matyr in the eyes of the Jihadists.
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I wouldn't want to kill him at all. I think a life sentence in a 2'x2' box (standing only) in a sleep deprivation environment with medical staff on hand sounds 10 times better. Keep him alive and VERY uncomfortable...for EVAR!

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These are just a few docs. that really sum up the bullshit swirl of lies that are forced down our throats. Who really knows anything about Bin Laden? I don't, and the the US Gov't. Doesn't seem to either. Is he alive or dead, who really knows?
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The Government knows quite a bit about him actually, as he comes from a very prominent family and used to be an ally of ours, his family actually seems to be rather friendly with us....or is it just with the Bush family? :urk:

According to Wikipeida, which isn't a be all end all source of course, the CIA officially stopped looking for him in 2005.
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Like he'd let himself be unguarded, and killing him would no nothing but make him a matyr in the eyes of the Jihadists.
no1 said he has to 'die' just 'go away'
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The Government knows quite a bit about him actually, as he comes from a very prominent family and used to be an ally of ours, his family actually seems to be rather friendly with us....or is it just with the Bush family? :urk:

According to Wikipeida, which isn't a be all end all source of course, the CIA officially stopped looking for him in 2005.
The US Government says it knows a lot of things. For example, how to properly evacuate a city like New Orleans and help the victims of Katrina during the flooding.

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no1 said he has to 'die' just 'go away'
I figure we'd just hand him over to Texas, he won't get out of there.
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I even heard rumours that he got killed by Omar Seikh... just rumours though.

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The US Government says it knows a lot of things. For example, how to properly evacuate a city like New Orleans and help the victims of Katrina during the flooding.

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You can't expect them to be omnipotent but I'm also in the school of thought that beleives that agencies such as the CIA and FEMA have more knowledge and control over the nation than our figure heads do, and feed them whatever info they see fit. At least that's how it seems much of the time.

My point was, we're not totally ignorant to what bin Laden is up to, we've been following him for many many years, but now that he's in Pakistan, we'll be hard pressed to get him.
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no1 said he has to 'die' just 'go away'
I like that Godfather-style way of speaking

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I bet Switzerland just want to talk to him about his overdraft, sponging git!

Seriously, Laddy, try to save money for soft fluffy things instead of building up your wee axis of evil.
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Maybe he's locking HIMSELF in a Swiss bank vault!
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Maybe he's locking HIMSELF in a Swiss bank vault!
And the swiss bank secret is protecting him.....

you know, i wouldn't be surprised if it were that way

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You can't expect them to be omnipotent but I'm also in the school of thought that beleives that agencies such as the CIA and FEMA have more knowledge and control over the nation than our figure heads do, and feed them whatever info they see fit. At least that's how it seems much of the time.

My point was, we're not totally ignorant to what bin Laden is up to, we've been following him for many many years, but now that he's in Pakistan, we'll be hard pressed to get him.
Sure they might know somethings, but they ain't telling us anything of any real use and what they do know is often from flawed, flaky unreliable sources such as double agents. We really don't have any idea what is happening in say, Waziristan or much of Iran. If our Government knew what was happening in pre-war Iraq, what would we have needed weapons inspectors for? We would have known what we needed to know, right? Do you get my point at all? They thrive on feeding us lies and misrepresentation. That kind of arrogance is fueled by ignorance and elitism. If we as a nation really understood how the government HATES us and undermines everyone's interests, we would all riot in the streets. Greed, gluttony and all the other sins keeps us fat and lazy. We are in the midst of a war because lies and corporate greed. That is the kind of self righteous bullshit that gets the US hated by even our allies. Maybe I'll just do some cheap Afgani heroin that is flooding our streets and try to forget all this crap.
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You know, talking to bin Laden makes a heck of a lot more sense than, oh, invading a secular Islamic state that bin Laden also wants to destroy and executing their dictator to give Islamic moderates a push towards anti-American extremism. You know, not like I've got anything in particular in mind here...

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You know, not like I've got anything in particular in mind here...

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errrrr... i honestly didn't get what you mean but it seems like you wanted it to sound like an insider or am i wrong?
Has it something to do with a recently closed thread maybe?

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errrrr... i honestly didn't get what you mean but it seems like you wanted it to sound like an insider or am i wrong?
Has it something to do with a recently closed thread maybe?
"invading a secular Islamic state that bin Laden also wants to destroy and executing their dictator to give Islamic moderates a push towards anti-American extremism" = Iraq.
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