[Jason]

Originally Posted by Stitch

But there are gangland shootings, people shooting there wives using guns as drills, people shooting themselves in the legs using shotguns to loosen wheelnuts, people shooting themselves shooting at metal plates, people almost losing eyes due to bad shooting instuction.

I don't really see how football is connected with guns anyway.

It's not.. But if these people are stupid enough to shoot themselves then

[Zepp88]

Originally Posted by Stitch

But there are gangland shootings, people shooting there wives using guns as drills, people shooting themselves in the legs using shotguns to loosen wheelnuts, people shooting themselves shooting at metal plates, people almost losing eyes due to bad shooting instuction.

I don't really see how football is connected with guns anyway.

I think what he means is. There are fuck-tards everywhere, we're just fuck-tards with guns.

America: Fuck-tards with guns.

[Nerina]

Im just glad soccer fans, for the most part, dont tote guns......

[Stitch]

Its the fact that you're just slightly more dangerous fucktards in America because guns are so much easier to get a hold of than over here.

So the average lethality - and collateral damage because of - a fucktard is much more in the states.

[Nerina]

Originally Posted by 7 Strings of Hate

stupid thing to say, guns dont belong in the hands of idiots. I'm sure when a guy breaks into your home to kill you, rape your wife, and steal your possesions, you'd sing a different tune

Only, I feel not everyone is able to handle a gun in the home, as this story points out.....

[courtney2018]

Originally Posted by KillForGod

guns just dont belong in a home.period.

Sure they do. And in the car and on your person.

Originally Posted by playstopause

So you're saying we should all have a gun in case this happens?

Abso-fucking-lutely! About the only thing that Florida is good about is the homeowner has the right to use deadly force if anyone breaks in whether or not they're displaying a weapon. Although I'd rather not shoot someone in my house. Blood is hell to get up out of carpets and walls.

Originally Posted by Zepp88

Retards like this are why we need gun control...

I think of gun control as using 2 hands and hitting your target. And, don't put your finger on the trigger unless you intend on pulling it.

[Nerina]

I just dont get people using guns for things that guns arent meant for,
If you're getting robbed, yeah, shoot the robbers ass off, but why aim a gun at a wall,with the INTENTION of 'just blowing out a hole' knowing there are people in your house, there are other tools made for that purpose! Like, ever heard of Home Depot? Just dumb.......

[Celiak]

I would like to slap this man.

[noodles]

Originally Posted by Stitch

Its funny how often that doesn't happen here in the UK, and we don't have guns in the home...

I'll agree with you all day long about handguns: they are easy to conceal and are involved in the majority of all shooting crimes. It is the weapon of a murderer, as gun statistics clearly point out (you don't hear about too many people shooting up a 7-11 with a deer rifle). I see no reason why anyone who is not a cop or a soldier should be carrying a handgun.

However, I see no problem with someone owning a shotgun or a rifle. Not only should you be allowed to hunt, but you should be allowed to defend your home as well. They aren't the type of weapons that one would carry around on their person, since where are you gonna put it? In this case, my idea of gun control is licensing and mandatory, annual safety classes for all gun owners.

The problem isn't the guns, but the morons behind the guns. The line of thinking he was using could have just as easily killed his wife with any manner of common power tools. These are the special breed of morons who think that they can knock down an interior wall with a chainsaw, hammer in nails with the battery end of a cordless drill, and cut through steel studs (in the wall) with a blow torch. It is sad when they take someone else out, instead of them, since mother nature is usually pretty good at eliminating the weaker genes.

[arktan]

Just to say something about "American Fucktards"

Here in Switzerland every man has an assault rifle at home (yes, everyone who was in the army and everyone must join the army if not incapacitated)...

Now from what i read everywhere the kills in the US are around 11000 to 13000 per year due to firearms........

here in switzerland we've got over 300 per year for sure (it's different, sometimes 320, sometimes 350) and switzerland is perceived as a secure country....

now make the count: The US have (let's say for easier calculations) 210 million dudes and dudettes and switzerland has 7 million

to have the relations we must multiply the number of inhabitants in switzerland with the factor 30 and also the number of firearms-casaulties:

we get 210 million people with 9000 dead due to firearms and switzerland doesn't have much problems in big cities with gangs and so on....
So we are no shit better than the Americans and yet we still say that we're less violent...... fuck that dude!
we're all morons

there, that'll teach ya'll