[hirah]

isn't this thread actually pointless considering that mccain is going to win the election anyway?take this with a bit of humor, but hear me out.
here's my prediction
barck beats hillary for the nomination
obviously it's mccain and barack at this point
republicans pull out all the stops addressing him as barack hussein obama again
this is when no publicity is good publicity for barack, too late
americas perception of barack suddenly changes
right or wrong, it will happen
mccain wins the election

i just cant see this country voting for a president that will most likely be sworn in on the Koran.
this is from a purely detatched standpoint, i am not racist in the least.

[Jongpil Yun]

Originally Posted by hirah

i just cant see this country voting for a president that will most likely be sworn in on the Koran.
this is from a purely detatched standpoint, i am not racist in the least.

I really hope you're joking.

I mean, do you watch Fox News or something? Or is it just that you're in third grade?

[JBroll]

I'm calling bullshit... the Hussein/raised Muslim/must obviously be a terrrrrrrist connection is horseshit, he's a Christian himself.

Conservatives don't even want to see McCain, and even if he's elected he'd be about three-quarters Democratic if he wanted to get anything done with the current Congress. The country is going liberal, deal with it.

Jeff

[tonyhell]

Originally Posted by hirah

isn't this thread actually pointless considering that mccain is going to win the election anyway?take this with a bit of humor, but hear me out.
here's my prediction
barck beats hillary for the nomination
obviously it's mccain and barack at this point
republicans pull out all the stops addressing him as barack hussein obama again
this is when no publicity is good publicity for barack, too late
americas perception of barack suddenly changes
right or wrong, it will happen
mccain wins the election

i just cant see this country voting for a president that will most likely be sworn in on the Koran.
this is from a purely detatched standpoint, i am not racist in the least.

God Dammit not again. Everyone I talk to that doesn't support Obama doesn't support him because of some lie they heard. He is not a Muslim, he was not sworn in on the Koran, he does not refer to Allah, he does not have a problem saying the pledge of allegiance, he has not turned he back to the flag, he doesn't wear a turban, and if you heard anything else along those lines it's a lie. Literally, most of the morons I talk to about Obama were not planning on voting for him because of some bullshit they heard.

It is true that he has a very unfortunate name. That's all he's guilty of.

It's really important that you all check with your friends and family and make sure that they haven't been mislead, because there's a chance they have. If you live in Ohio or Texas it's really important:

[Lee]

Originally Posted by hirah

republicans pull out all the stops addressing him as barack hussein obama again
this is when no publicity is good publicity for barack, too late
americas perception of barack suddenly changes

That's where I think you're wrong. When Cunningham called Obama by his full name at the McCain rally (who McCain actually had met prior to then, though he denied it), it had much of the same effect that the NY Times story had on McCain. Some of the conservatives jumped to his defense even though they didn't support him, just because they viewed it as an attack from the left. Even Rush Limbaugh defended him. Rush Limbaugh defended John McCain!

Karl Rove even stated that using Obama's full name would be a bad idea, and I think it would have much the same would happen if McCain or the GOP in general started using his full name. They wouldn't do it because they figured out really quickly how bad it backfired the first time, so they won't even think of doing that again.

And what in the world gave you the idea that Barack Obama is Muslim? He is a Christian, he was sworn in on the Bible, and has talked about it in debates and has it's own section on his website.

[hirah]

I really hope you're joking.

I mean, do you watch Fox News or something? Or is it just that you're in third grade?

so i was misinformed as are a lot of people. no need for the third grade remark.
maybe you're just an idealistic person that believes everyones decision is based on the truth. and these are the decisions to make because they are right, no matter who the person is. hate to break it to you, but the world is not a perfect place. people make decisions based on emotions and perception,which is rarely beneficial to anyone.
if perception doesnt matter, there wouldnt be such a big deal made about using baracks middle name.
people let their beliefs , convictions and religions get in the way of rational logical decisions.
case in point:
i don't believe that there should be "in god we trust" on U.S. currency. that has nothing to do with my religious beliefs. but i can see the issues for what they are without my personal beliefs getting in the way.
same with abortion. i might not agree with it because of my beliefs, but i support it.

[Jongpil Yun]

Originally Posted by hirah

so i was misinformed as are a lot of people. no need for the third grade remark.

Because everything that follows is a non-sequitur, I'll just address this.

The fact that you believed, and even worse, spread something so thoroughly covered and debunked as false in the media, really brings into doubt your opinion on anything. That's just the way it goes. If I go around spouting some bullshit about how McCain was behind the assassination of JFK, people have every right to question, if not my intellect, my sanity.

More than anything, I'm curious as to just where the hell you heard that from. I have never heard it from a reputable source (barring Fox News and the Madrassa bullshit, although it's redundant to say so), so that means that you must have heard it from a very disreputable source, which makes you, IMO, credulous.

[JBroll]

Originally Posted by hirah

so i was misinformed as are a lot of people. no need for the third grade remark.
maybe you're just an idealistic person that believes everyones decision is based on the truth. and these are the decisions to make because they are right, no matter who the person is. hate to break it to you, but the world is not a perfect place. people make decisions based on emotions and perception,which is rarely beneficial to anyone.
if perception doesnt matter, there wouldnt be such a big deal made about using baracks middle name.
people let their beliefs , convictions and religions get in the way of rational logical decisions.
case in point:
i don't believe that there should be "in god we trust" on U.S. currency. that has nothing to do with my religious beliefs. but i can see the issues for what they are without my personal beliefs getting in the way.
same with abortion. i might not agree with it because of my beliefs, but i support it.

That doesn't mean you're getting off the hook for spreading complete and total bullshit... just own up to it and move on.

Jeff

[Naren]

Originally Posted by JBroll

That doesn't mean you're getting off the hook for spreading complete and total bullshit... just own up to it and move on.

Jeff

I was going to post a response of " WHAT THE FUCK?!" to his post when I first read it earlier today, but JP had just posted that, so I decided not to.

I almost wondered if he was being sarcastic or seeing how bizarre of a post he could make.

[Azyiu]

I am late to this discussion and haven't read all the posts, so if what I say has already been discussed, I apologize in advance.

The main reason I don't want to see Obama in the While House is I don't want to see another admininstration as powerless since the Carter's. Obama is simply too nice, too new to play real, hard ball politics in Washington. I can see him accompishes next to nothing, or will have a very difficult time to do anything in 4 years like Carter.