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Old 02-22-2008, 02:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The best part of the debate was Hillary sitting there freaking out, talking with her hands spewing the plagiarism line that everyone knows is bullshit, while Obama sat there quietly taking notes.

If you mute the volume, you see one person lying like a motherfucker and having the audacity to expect the American public to agree with her, and another just letting her shoot herself in the foot. Obama doesn't even need to refute her claim, it's bullshit and anyone with half a brain understands this.
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I agree. He handled himself very well, and even when she had him dead to rights on some of the health care stuff, he retained composure. Hillary needed to shake him up, and it just never happened.

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Old 02-22-2008, 02:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Honestly, even Clinton's staff admits that one of the few things that can save her campaign now is Obama making a HUGE debate gaff. This is one of the reasons why she's pushing for weekly debates, and with one down one to go this is another reason why it probably won't happen.

My question now is will she concede if/when she loses Texas and Ohio?

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Old 02-22-2008, 02:31 PM   #14 (permalink)
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My question now is will she concede if/when she loses Texas and Ohio?
Part of me wants to say know, but another part of me can't get the image of Bill Clinton talking about how devestating a loss Texas and/or Ohio would be.

If she wants to have any influence in an Obama administration whatsoever, then she will need to be smart enough to back down if she doesn't do well on March 4. She is the type of person who can make a lot of things happen, due to her wide ranging power and influence. Junior Senators just don't command the kind of respect that she has. She needs to decide if she wants to be involved in the executive branch moving forward (be it as VP, Secretary of State, etc), or if she wants to remain a Senator.
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Old 02-22-2008, 03:11 PM   #15 (permalink)
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She needs to decide if she wants to be involved in the executive branch moving forward (be it as VP, Secretary of State, etc), or if she wants to remain a Senator.
If Obama wins the nomination, Clinton will not be asked to run as the VP, she adds nothing to his campaign. The reverse is not true.

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I don't think she could swallow her pride and run as a VP. Secretary of State? Maybe.
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Old 02-23-2008, 03:36 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Not only was it stupid, but after she said it, she then went on to plagiarize a speech given by Edwards a while ago.



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that was so weak, really.....

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Hmm, despite not being liberal (And being in Canada ) I wouldn't vote for either of them, although Obama is handling himself well.
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