Dammit, people!

GH0STrider · 02-21-2008, 08:39 PM

And what defines who is "responsible"? Apparently according to background checks it is responsible to hand firearms over to a former mental patient on 3 seperate meds for anxiety and depression. That sounds real responsible. Guns laws felt the niu shooter was responsible enough to own guns, how do you define who is responisble? Because the people making those decisions aren't putting much thought into it.

I have said keeping guns off campus is not possible. But just cause we can't keep them off doesn't mean we should just allow them all together. that is just stupid. Having people running around with guns doesn't make for a good enviornment in any context. It doesn't make us any safer either. Arguments happen everyday, how long till a select few take it too far and the whole campus is shooting each other? It's just a bad idea

Clydefrog · 02-21-2008, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH0STrider

I have said keeping guns off campus is not possible. But just cause we can't keep them off doesn't mean we should just allow them all together. that is just stupid. Having people running around with guns doesn't make for a good enviornment in any context. It doesn't make us any safer either. Arguments happen everyday, how long till a select few take it too far and the whole campus is shooting each other? It's just a bad idea

There was a study in this very thread that proves you wrong on this point.

JBroll · 02-21-2008, 10:20 PM

Keep in mind that in the figures I posted 'irresponsible' people were counted as well; if someone does magically find a way to keep guns only in the hands of people who can be trusted as much as you want, they'll only improve.

Also, I'm in Texas. Everyone has a fucking gun. More specifically, I'm in a college and military town - arguments happen. Arguments + guns =/= OK Corral... hate to break it to you, but the Wild West is dead and things like that don't happen in the real world.

Jeff

GH0STrider · 02-21-2008, 11:05 PM

I never called this the wild wild west. I'm not going to agree with any of this so whatever.

JBroll · 02-21-2008, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH0STrider

Arguments happen everyday, how long till a select few take it too far and the whole campus is shooting each other? It's just a bad idea

That's what I was referring to. If it happened, it would happen here, and it doesn't. That was my point.

Jeff

GH0STrider · 02-21-2008, 11:13 PM

never say never. Just cause it has not happened yet does not mean it won't. That is my point.

JBroll · 02-21-2008, 11:21 PM

Now, put that back in context and look at the big picture: does that cancel out the MILLIONS of crimes stopped each year?

Jeff

GH0STrider · 02-21-2008, 11:25 PM

your claiming that "if it were to happen, it would happen here". Every campus is a target. Again your not safe. It could happen there tomorrow. This is really getting pointless. so whatever

JBroll · 02-21-2008, 11:35 PM

You're misinterpreting me and, you're right, this isn't going anywhere. Done until something more interesting pops up.

Jeff

GH0STrider · 02-21-2008, 11:36 PM

I've pretty much been misinterpreted this whole thread so the feeling is mutual. I too am done.

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02-21-2008, 08:39 PM	#81 (permalink)
GH0STrider Resident Gangsta Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dekalb Posts: 1,703 Real Name: Jack blackcock Main Seven: 2001 Ibanez RG7421XL Rig: Roland/Crate Thanked: 4	And what defines who is "responsible"? Apparently according to background checks it is responsible to hand firearms over to a former mental patient on 3 seperate meds for anxiety and depression. That sounds real responsible. Guns laws felt the niu shooter was responsible enough to own guns, how do you define who is responisble? Because the people making those decisions aren't putting much thought into it. I have said keeping guns off campus is not possible. But just cause we can't keep them off doesn't mean we should just allow them all together. that is just stupid. Having people running around with guns doesn't make for a good enviornment in any context. It doesn't make us any safer either. Arguments happen everyday, how long till a select few take it too far and the whole campus is shooting each other? It's just a bad idea

02-21-2008, 10:20 PM	#83 (permalink)
JBroll A Wookie on Ayn Rand Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Antonio, TX, USA Posts: 2,112 Thanked: 15	Keep in mind that in the figures I posted 'irresponsible' people were counted as well; if someone does magically find a way to keep guns only in the hands of people who can be trusted as much as you want, they'll only improve. Also, I'm in Texas. Everyone has a fucking gun. More specifically, I'm in a college and military town - arguments happen. Arguments + guns =/= OK Corral... hate to break it to you, but the Wild West is dead and things like that don't happen in the real world. Jeff

02-21-2008, 11:05 PM	#84 (permalink)
GH0STrider Resident Gangsta Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dekalb Posts: 1,703 Real Name: Jack blackcock Main Seven: 2001 Ibanez RG7421XL Rig: Roland/Crate Thanked: 4	I never called this the wild wild west. I'm not going to agree with any of this so whatever.

02-21-2008, 11:13 PM	#86 (permalink)
GH0STrider Resident Gangsta Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dekalb Posts: 1,703 Real Name: Jack blackcock Main Seven: 2001 Ibanez RG7421XL Rig: Roland/Crate Thanked: 4	never say never. Just cause it has not happened yet does not mean it won't. That is my point.

02-21-2008, 11:21 PM	#87 (permalink)
JBroll A Wookie on Ayn Rand Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Antonio, TX, USA Posts: 2,112 Thanked: 15	Now, put that back in context and look at the big picture: does that cancel out the MILLIONS of crimes stopped each year? Jeff

02-21-2008, 11:25 PM	#88 (permalink)
GH0STrider Resident Gangsta Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dekalb Posts: 1,703 Real Name: Jack blackcock Main Seven: 2001 Ibanez RG7421XL Rig: Roland/Crate Thanked: 4	your claiming that "if it were to happen, it would happen here". Every campus is a target. Again your not safe. It could happen there tomorrow. This is really getting pointless. so whatever

02-21-2008, 11:35 PM	#89 (permalink)
JBroll A Wookie on Ayn Rand Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Antonio, TX, USA Posts: 2,112 Thanked: 15	You're misinterpreting me and, you're right, this isn't going anywhere. Done until something more interesting pops up. Jeff

02-21-2008, 11:36 PM	#90 (permalink)
GH0STrider Resident Gangsta Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dekalb Posts: 1,703 Real Name: Jack blackcock Main Seven: 2001 Ibanez RG7421XL Rig: Roland/Crate Thanked: 4	I've pretty much been misinterpreted this whole thread so the feeling is mutual. I too am done.


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