[Clydefrog]

Originally Posted by GH0STrider

Have your friends shot at and killed and tell me there is not a problem. How many campus shootings and unneeded lose of lives do you need to see?
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Knee-jerk emotional response that has no business in any discussion or debate. Appealing to ones emotions like that does nothing to further your cause, it just makes you look like you're reaching.

[GH0STrider]

Apparently it is going to take individuals such as yourself to experience lose because of a firearm firsthand before you get it, and that is really fucking sad.

Your no safer with your gun that you are without it.

Originally Posted by Clydefrog

Knee-jerk emotional response that has no business in any discussion or debate. Appealing to ones emotions like that does nothing to further your cause, it just makes you look like you're reaching.

And since we are the topic of debate- since when did a thread about a targic school shooting become a NRA rally? Try and use this thread to honor the victims and take your gun toting views to another one.

[Metal Ken]

Originally Posted by GH0STrider

. If you don't trust the police and the people who are put in place to protect you in this country then that is another issue.

Why should we? How many news stories have we seen with cops not doing their jobs, abusing people, etc?

It'd be a grand world if we COULD rely on cops and stuff for everything, but we can't.

[Clydefrog]

You seem to be placing the blame squarely on the gun instead of the person who chose to do this. I put forth to you that this person could have gone and done the exact same thing with a weapon other than a gun; a knife would suffice. Should we ban knives?

You say I am no safer with a gun than without it, but really, stop and think about that. If I had a gun with me when there was a school shooting, and I was in the opposite end of the room of the shooter, are you saying I would not be any safer? That I would not have a chance to save the many victims that died?

The problem here isn't guns. It's the irresponsible attitude that society puts towards them, including the "BAN ALL GUNS" ideology. The proper way to stop this scourge of gun abuse is to put forth the proper education about them. Again, I offer to you the example of people raised to respect guns as a tool of survival (hunting for ones own food), and to respect them and their destructive capabilities. How many of those people are going on the shooting rampages? None.

[GH0STrider]

Originally Posted by Metal Ken

Why should we? How many news stories have we seen with cops not doing their jobs, abusing people, etc?

It'd be a grand world if we COULD rely on cops and stuff for everything, but we can't.

So what? Let allow anyone who wants a gun to police the nation themselves? That has worked out so well...

Seriously fuck this thread. It has been taken way out of context.

[Clydefrog]

Originally Posted by GH0STrider

So what? Let allow anyone who wants a gun to police the nation themselves? That has worked out so well...

Seriously fuck this thread. It has been taken way out of context.

No, you've taken it out of context by taking what someone says and then spinning it out of its original meaning entirely. When did anyone say that everyone should get a gun and police the nation themselves?

[GH0STrider]

Originally Posted by Clydefrog

No, you've taken it out of context by taking what someone says and then spinning it out of its original meaning entirely. When did anyone say that everyone should get a gun and police the nation themselves?

Ha. I've taken it out of context. Your no better than the asshole NRA members running around our campus as we speak spreading bullshit about gun rights. that is not what it is about. This thread should be showing support and respect to the people that lost their lives, not a call to arms for gun rights.

[Clydefrog]

Originally Posted by GH0STrider

Ha. I've taken it out of context. Your no better than the asshole NRA members running around our campus as we speak spreading bullshit about gun rights. that is not what it is about. This thread should be showing support and respect to the people that lost their lives, not a call to arms for gun rights.

First of all, I'm not in the NRA. Second of all, I don't own a gun. Third, I've never touched a gun, nor do I have any desire to. Fourth, you're way out of line here, and need to seriously reign in the emotion because it's uncalled for and I certainly don't appreciate being called an "asshole" simply because I hold an opinion different from yours (that you have yet to actually counter with a reasoned debate).

Also, go ahead and read the thread. This didn't start out as a "call to arms" for gun support. The first post of this nature was about gun control reform, actually; from your own side. Try and keep it straight.

[Metal Ken]

Originally Posted by GH0STrider

Ha. I've taken it out of context. Your no better than the asshole NRA members running around our campus as we speak spreading bullshit about gun rights. that is not what it is about. This thread should be showing support and respect to the people that lost their lives, not a call to arms for gun rights.

Its not a call to arms for gun rights, its WAS A civil discssion about the merits of gun control and its effectiveness. You're going around calling people assholes, making stupid accusations and taking people's arguments out of context. Have a nice little nap.

[Clydefrog]

You know what really sucks?

Jack Thompson jumping on the issue and immediately blaming violent video games for this, because the perpetrator MAY have played Counter-Strike at some point in his life.

I mean, the fact that he wasn't taking his medication at the time of the incident had NOTHING to do with it, right Jack?