[Stitch]

I don't think I've ever read something that has made me so fucking angry.

How DARE the US start pulling these stunts?They're demanding this, demanding that, and the next thing - a whole list of entirely unreasonable demands for information - personal, personal information that really has no correlation on international security, but more a convenient way to harvest a third of the worlds personal information. They're treating it like all the trouble and terrorism comes from the EU, when if anything its come from within the US and the middle east.

Armed marshals on all flights? Piss off! Perhaps if the US was an impartial group in the world, but we all know that isn't true.

I find it particularly rich when the US have proved to mentally challenged and greed-driven to sign similar agreements, ranging on things from prisoner transfers to ecological protocols (like the Kyoto Agreement).

Fuck this, fuck them, and fuck coming to the US if that actually gets passed. I'm not being kowtowed into doing that.

[TheMissing]

Originally Posted by Stitch

I don't think I've ever read something that has made me so fucking angry.

How DARE the US start pulling these stunts?They're demanding this, demanding that, and the next thing - a whole list of entirely unreasonable demands for information - personal, personal information that really has no correlation on international security, but more a convenient way to harvest a third of the worlds personal information. They're treating it like all the trouble and terrorism comes from the EU, when if anything its come from within the US and the middle east.

Armed marshals on all flights? Piss off! Perhaps if the US was an impartial group in the world, but we all know that isn't true.

I find it particularly rich when the US have proved to mentally challenged and greed-driven to sign similar agreements, ranging on things from prisoner transfers to ecological protocols (like the Kyoto Agreement).

Fuck this, fuck them, and fuck coming to the US if that actually gets passed. I'm not being kowtowed into doing that.

Maybe our dumb-shit president is scared of this: Watch out UK

[Stitch]

I find it hard to believe any high-up Christian figure in American even believes that other religions are anything other than scary stories trying to steal their children.

[Durero]

Makes me never want to travel to the U.S. again

[Lee]

Well, at least someone has finally stood up to fight it.

Suit: Airport searches of laptops, other devices intrusive - CNN.com

"We have broad search authority at the borders to determine admissibility and look for anything that may be in violation of criminal law," says agency spokeswoman Lynn Hollinger.

Really? Because I'm pretty sure there's a little piece of paper somewhere that says something to the effect of:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

[noodles]

Russ Knocke, a spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security, equates searches of electronic devices to those of papers in briefcases.

"You forgo your right to privacy when you are seeking admission into the country," he says. "This is the kind of scrutiny the American public expects."

Hi. Member of the American public here. Before you open your big mouth and speak on my behalf, maybe you should ask my opinion of it first. No, this is not the type of scrutiny that I expect, I feel it is invassive, it is violating the unreasonable search and seizure clause of the Bill of Rights, and I want you to fucking stop.

Benjamin Franklin: "Those that give up liberty for temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security." Why the fuck do I have to keep saying this?

[D-EJ915]

That guy needs a punch to the scrotum.

[T_money419]

Originally Posted by Lee

Really? Because I'm pretty sure there's a little piece of paper somewhere that says something to the effect of:The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Originally Posted by noodles

Benjamin Franklin: "Those that give up liberty for temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security." Why the fuck do I have to keep saying this?

Well said guys

[ElRay]

Originally Posted by noodles

We have the first amendment for a reason, even if it is hard to read through the skid marks of numerous neocon ass wipings.

This is more of a fourth and fifth amendment violation, but don't forget, the other side of the aisle is just as bad. "Liberals" have gone from protecting the first amendment to trying to ban speech they don't like; Billary suspended all fourth amendment rights of anybody living in government housing, etc..

The problem is that too many Americans don't see the Constitution as the straightjacket is was intended to be and are too happy to make an end run around it for their connivence (often to use the government as a club to enforce their views), and then whine when the tide changes and they're on the receiving end of somebody-else's club.

Ray

[sakeido]

Originally Posted by Durero

Makes me never want to travel to the U.S. again

No kidding
If I start travelling in and out on business I'm going to store everything on a password protected USB memory drive and fuckin mail it back and forth.