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Unread 01-06-2008, 12:07 AM   #1
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CheneyCare for everyone!

Nurses Launch National 'CheneyCare' Campaign

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The California Nurses Association (CNA)/National Nurses Organizing Committee (NNOC) launched a national campaign today in favor of what the group has dubbed "CheneyCare" -- guaranteed, publicly-funded health care for all Americans.

The campaign was inspired by the success of the group's Iowa ads declaring that Vice President Dick Cheney "would be dead" if he did not have publicly-funded health care. A new version of the Iowa ad asking Americans to sign a petition for "CheneyCare" will run today in eight New Hampshire papers before going national in the New York Times, Washington Post, and USA Today, as well as leading political blogs, on Monday.

"All Americans have the right to the quality of care that our Vice-President, President, and Congress already have," said Rose Ann DeMoro, Executive Director of CNA/NNOC and a vice-president of the AFL-CIO. "All the leading Democratic proposals fall well short of "CheneyCare," keeping insurance companies at the apex of power and allowing them to deny care that can save lives. The Republican proposals are even worse."

The ad uses recent headlines about Vice-President Dick Cheney's latest heart procedure to point out the difference between the government-funded health care that the nation's leading politicians enjoy and the precarious health care situation in which most Americans find themselves.

A news article about Cheney's recent treatment for heartbeat irregularities provides the context with the headline: "If he were anyone else, he'd probably be dead by now." The text highlights that factors such as the patient's history and prognosis would likely lead to a denial of private insurance claims for most Americans, assuming that they had coverage in the first place.

The ad asks readers to go to Guaranteed Healthcare | We Don't Need Insurance, We Need and sign a petition in support of CheneyCare for all Americans. The blog ads cut to the chase, with the tagline "CheneyCare for all."

The campaign plans to continue running ads in all the early primary states. Once the presidential candidates are chosen, the petition will be delivered to the both the Democratic and Republican nominees' state campaign offices around the country.

CNA/NNOC has been critical of "universal health care" proposals by top Democratic presidential hopefuls Senator Hillary Clinton, Senator Barack Obama and John Edwards, which continue to rely upon the wasteful inclusion of private insurance companies.

Earlier in the campaign season, CNA/NNOC teamed up with Physicians for a National Health Program (PNHP) to air television ads during Democratic presidential debates in Iowa and New Hampshire. The three "Speechless" ads featured regular Americans describing the costs, burdens and financial pressures that the current health care system is putting on them to one of the leading democratic candidates. They then ask the candidate what she or he is doing about it. The camera then cut to a cardboard cut-out of candidates Clinton, Obama or Edwards, with a voice-over that says, "The longer nobody

talks about single payer, guaranteed health care for everyone, the longer we are going to wait to get it."

CNA/NNOC is part of the Leadership Conference for Guaranteed Health Care, a new umbrella group for labor, advocacy and health care professionals committed to working to pass legislation that will guarantee access to health care for all Americans.

About California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee: Founded in 1903, the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee today represents over 75,000 members nationwide. It is the largest and fastest-growing organization of direct care Registered Nurses in the country and is dedicated to providing a voice for nurses and a vision for healthcare.


Oh my goodness gracious. I do love it when irony bites these smug corporate whores right in the ass.
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Unread 01-06-2008, 02:49 AM   #2
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Anyone else who's ever worked in a hospital (or even anywhere in the medical industry) will know this -- there is a huge morass of paperwork, poor working conditions, confusing protocol, and a system that just overall doesn't work. No office can communicate with another office because they're using different standards.

A recent study (check [s]the notes page on the Persiflager's Infectious Disease podcast[/i] Atul Gawande's book Better for source) showed massive improvements in Doctors and nurses handwashing compliance by simply adding a few more washing stations, and shuffling them around where they would actually BE USED. Shit tons of little administrative errors cover the place that would literally save lives if they were solved. We're not talking arcane economic overhaul of some sort, we're talking about moving the handwashing stations outside of the patients room.

There are not enough doctors, there are DEFINITELY not enough nurses. No one in America wants to be a nurse it seems. All the nurses I know are from the Philippines, Vietnam, or Ethiopia. My mom, when she used to work at Nursing Homes, actually learned Ethiopian language on a conversational level because like thirteen of the nurses there spoke Ethiopian. And the nurses often form little cliques, where the Filipino nurses don't get along with the Vietnamese nurses, or whatever, but the worst is the ghetto American black people.

I'm not saying it's bad that our nursing staff is all composed of immigrants, if they have the skills, I don't give a shit, but many of them, quite frankly, don't.

We need more doctors, of every kind. We need more GPs and more specialists. We need more outpatient diagnostic and rehab centers. We NEED. MORE. NURSES. Well qualified ones. We need everyone to have a single system for storing and filing data, so patient records can be moved around without all the inane things that happen now.

I can tell you, I've worked in nearly ever field here. I've worked for a year in a nursing home, I worked for a few months at an outpatient diagnostics center (ran CTs and MRIs), and I've basically job-shadowed for a week a Doctor at St. Francis hospital here in Seattle.

Nurses usually fall into a few categories.

1) Morbidly obese white RN who never gets her ass out of the nursing station
2) Morbidly obese black LPN who never gets her ass out of the nursing station.
3) Skinny, domineering Asian RN who has to get everything done while bitching at everyone nonstop (my Mom)

Nursing Assistants are usually worse:

1) Tall white guy who looks like he's smoking meth or something. Scary
2) White trash girl who has heroin tracks over her arms shuffling through the meds looking for some oxycontin to steal. Dangerous, lazy.
3) Short skinny Filipino women who works relatively hard but doesn't know shit and talks incessantly with the other Filipino nurses in tagalog. Lazy.
4) Short balding Filipino man who works okay but doesn't know crap either. Lazy.
5&6) The same as the above two, but they're Vietnamese.
7) Africans. Have a lot of fun, do their job well, work hard, and don't steal drugs much. Only problem is that their English is meh at best.
8) American black woman. Either fat, lazy, and incompetent, or fat, abusive, and incompetent. Often scream and get into fights easily, or steal drugs to sell to #2

And also let me tell you, it is damn near impossible to fire someone, and once you do, it doesn't matter. The nursing shortage is so bad around here that you can get fired for abusing a patient and find a job across the street without an interview. Just walk in, show your credentials, and they'll take you.

Whether it's laughable or irrational, this is the path that ALL great men walk!
If there's a wall in our way, we'll destroy it!
If there's no road, we'll pave it with our own hands!
The magma in our hearts is blazing like flames!
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^ In response to all that:

1) This is what happens when you privatize something that should be an entitlement for all. With entitlement, the mission is to do whatever it takes to accomplish the goal. With privatization, the mission is to deliver a certain level of service to the customer for the least possible amount of money, within the scope of acceptable loses.

Now, this is all well and good when you are talking about, say, consumer electronics. Fabricate the product in China where it is cheaper, and offer a warranty. If the product fails, replace or repair it. Some people slip through the cracks, get angry, and refuse to do business with you again. This is an acceptable loss, because trying to please a greater percentage of customers would have diminishing returns on the profit margin.

When the business is health care, the product is lives. No matter what pretty face the health care industry or rich conservative politicians want to put on it, the sick truth of the matter is that lives have been turned into a profit margin. It doesn't make sound financial sense to even attempt to save everyone. Population growth on this planet is massive, so it is really not a matter of survival of the species. The acceptable loses who fall through the cracks don't matter, since the lobbyists own the politicians who make the laws. We're simply picking from the candidates that the lobbyists decided to fund.

2) Doctors and nurses are so hard to find because the health insurance industry has destroyed the private practice and turned doctors into salaried employees. Medical school is insanely expensive, and doctor's salaries are so low that it will take half a career or more to pay off the student loans. Let's not even talk about malpractice insurance. Retirement? Where is the money going to come from. Protocol says doctors need to make more than nurses, so who wants to be a nurse. More and more college goers now pass medicine up for information technology, engineering, or other less expensive studies that will transfer to a far more lucrative, higher paid career options.

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We don't want to fix the medical industry in this country. By "we", I mean the small percentage of privileged Americans who hold the lion's share of the wealth and dictate the policy that drives our nation.

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^ In response to all that:

1) This is what happens when you privatize something that should be an entitlement for all. With entitlement, the mission is to do whatever it takes to accomplish the goal. With privatization, the mission is to deliver a certain level of service to the customer for the least possible amount of money, within the scope of acceptable loses.
I dunno, maybe, but in my experience a lot of the problems have come from the fact that the State runs a lot of health institutions. The nursing homes are the worst. I'd say, with entitlement, the mission is to deliver an acceptable level of care, and with privatized care, the goal is to deliver as much as the customer is willing to pay for. Are either very good? I don't know, but I've never seen a fully privatized health care system so I don't know how it would work. Probably poorly. But I digress.

In my mind a lot of the problems are that:

a) Affirmative action fills the staff with incompetent people. You would not believe the proportion of Vietnam vets, alcoholics, women with health issues, etc. Once you stop judging employees by individual merit, inefficiency is bound to creep in. And with a lot of the people, they simply don't care, because they're confident that they won't be fired. It is damn near impossible to fire anyone who works for the State. Private nursing homes are in the same boat (but possibly even worse) because of massive nursing shortages, which brings me to the next item.

b) Free market forces aren't working on the healthcare staff pay scale like they should be. Whether this is because of government intervention (liberal view) or because free market forces are fundamentally non-applicable to this kind of situation (conservative view) I don't know, but IMO cleaning demented old women's shit while they throw pills and puke at you or bite you or removing several inches of necrotic infected tissue from a stage IV pressure ulcer and finding osteomyelitis that leads to sepsis and death, which is easily the most disgusting smell in the universe, is a 35k/year job. I go on /b/ and laugh off all the shock images because I've seen worse in real life.

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