Iowa

Drew · 01-03-2008, 01:49 PM

Any projections? I've got my fingers crossed that that last poll holds true, and we come out of this Obama, Edwards, and then Clinton.

noodles · 01-03-2008, 03:03 PM

Personally, I rather see it go Edwards, Obama, Clinton, but what is really going to happen is (Clinton,Obama), Edwards.

Drew · 01-03-2008, 03:09 PM

I'd rather see Edwards win it all too bro, but I don't think he's got enough national support to carry the nomination. Obama, meanwhile, could probably leverage a win tonight into a realistic bid.

ohio_eric · 01-03-2008, 03:37 PM

My guess is either Edwards or Obama. Kucinich already told his supporters that if they can't get the 15% necessary to caucus then to support Obama. So I lean ever so slightly towards Obama.

Huckabee should win the on the GOP side.

The Dark Wolf · 01-03-2008, 04:26 PM

Edwards/Ron Paul.

This is what I hope for. Then we'll have a decent shot on either side.

Leon · 01-03-2008, 05:24 PM

i'm curious to know how much of an effect Iowa will have on New Hampshire.

lordofthesewers · 01-03-2008, 06:53 PM

Obama and Biden on the dem side
the GOP can kill itself.

Leon · 01-03-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lordofthesewers

Obama and Biden on the dem side
the GOP can kill itself.

i don't know how, but i think Huckabee would be as bad as Bush, if not worse, and i don't really know anything about Romney, but i don't think McCain would make a bad president. i'd rather Edwards get the job, but if it goes to McCain, i'll support that

garcia3441 · 01-03-2008, 07:40 PM

I'm kinda hoping for Biden and then Dodd. But I really don't think either has a snowball's chance in hell.

Bound · 01-03-2008, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew

I'd rather see Edwards win it all too bro, but I don't think he's got enough national support to carry the nomination. Obama, meanwhile, could probably leverage a win tonight into a realistic bid.

The problem with Edwards right now is he picked the year a woman and a black man decided to run for president. So instead of the democrats actually offering some substance we're lost in the Clinton(again) vs Blackman spectacle.....

It's too bad, because Edwards actually has some great policies, rather than a silver tongue and empty slogans(obama) or the Clinton again campaign....

Otherwise I'd think he might have a legitamate chance, but not this year, sadly.

and Leon, all you need to know about Mitt Romney is he absolutely destroyed the state of Mass. He killed our education, he botched the big dig, he ....ed up our health care.... the guy is a grade A moron.

Leon · 01-03-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bound

and Leon, all you need to know about Mitt Romney is he absolutely destroyed the state of Mass. He killed our education, he botched the big dig, he ....ed up our health care.... the guy is a grade A moron.

i generally find myself liking Kucinich, but then i remember how ....ing dried up and run down Cleveland has become in recent years

lordofthesewers · 01-03-2008, 09:58 PM

I'm glad Obama won. I take him over Edwards any day. Edwards is all populism and hatred of companies.

Abhorred · 01-03-2008, 10:04 PM

I will kill someone, possibly myself, if I ever have to say "President Huckabee."

That sounds like a southern restaurant chain, for crying out loud! Come on down to President Huckabees for the oddest goddamned old fashioned meal you'll ever have!

:headshot:

JBroll · 01-03-2008, 10:15 PM

Nevermind the fact that he's a bloody loon, his name sounds silly.

...

Wow, US politics really *are* a joke...

All things aside, if it comes down to Obama/Huckabee I have to say my money is on Obama. Not many things can make me like Obama... but comparison to Huckabee is one of them.

Jeff

ohio_eric · 01-03-2008, 10:16 PM

I would say Iowa held to predictions. Now there will be a few more primaries and such and it will be interesting to see what happens. Giuliani finished 6th. He's supposed to be banking on Fla. I have an inkling he's toast.

The Dark Wolf · 01-03-2008, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordofthesewers

I'm glad Obama won. I take him over Edwards any day. Edwards is all populism and hatred of companies.

I fail to see the problem with that.

Obama - let's consult the insurance companies to craft health care legislation! Yeah, like the insurance companies really care about people. Sure.

Lee · 01-03-2008, 10:23 PM

It'll be interesting to see what happens on Tuesday when the Evangelicals aren't carrying Huckabee. I would've rather seen Edwards come out on top, but I can live with Obama as well.

Abhorred · 01-03-2008, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBroll

Nevermind the fact that he's a bloody loon, his name sounds silly.

I can't even begin to comprehend the depth of his God fearing insanity, so I figure it's easier to pick on his name.

Heaven help us.

ohio_eric · 01-03-2008, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordofthesewers

Edwards is all populism and hatred of companies.

Of course this is why I find myself agreeing with him so much. Since I'm a populist trust busting mofo.

[action=ohio_eric] speaks softly but carries one hell of a big stick[/action]

noodles · 01-03-2008, 11:35 PM

Considering the speech he gave after he was announced the winner, I don't see him NOT winning in New Hampshire. He just set the tone for the next three primaries in one very brilliantly executed speech. It has been a while since we saw a candidate talk so boldly and passionately.

I just hope he means what he says. I like Edwards, but I don't see much hope for him beyond Vice President. I think the fat lady is warming up backstage to sing Clinton's swan song. She is going to be hard pressed to win next week.

Vince · 01-04-2008, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noodles

I think the fat lady is warming up backstage to sing Clinton's swan song.

DDDorian · 01-04-2008, 03:29 AM

In a parfect world, Obama would beam up Kucinich as a running partner against GOP nominee Ron Paul, but I guess watching Obama wipe the floor with Huckabee will be entertaining enough...

Can someone explain to me what that Democrat caucous red-rover bullshit is all about? My brain hurts

Vegetta · 01-04-2008, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince

Shouldnt that be SWALLOW song not a SWAN song

oompa · 01-04-2008, 09:19 AM

ive followed this with interrest, but can someone explain to me shortly how this pre-elections thingy works? i know there will be one more in new hampshire, but when and will they go through all states? and then count the total or what? and isnt this only the democrats election of thier.. um.. democrat representative in the real elections come fall?

thanks /oompa

edit: please dont link some website with a 40 page explanation, i want the "election for dummies" version

noodles · 01-04-2008, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince

Zing!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegetta

Shouldnt that be SWALLOW song not a SWAN song

And zing again!

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01-03-2008, 01:49 PM	#1
Drew Fear the Polo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somerville, MA Posts: 21,656 Thanked: 154 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Iowa Any projections? I've got my fingers crossed that that last poll holds true, and we come out of this Obama, Edwards, and then Clinton. "...and everything under the sun is in tune, but the sun is eclipsed by the moon." http://www.metalguitarist.org

01-03-2008, 03:03 PM	#2
noodles I'm your huckleberry Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 17,910 Thanked: 303 Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Personally, I rather see it go Edwards, Obama, Clinton, but what is really going to happen is (Clinton,Obama), Edwards. Noodles Division: American Metal without the suck. kxksales@gmail.com

01-03-2008, 03:09 PM	#3
Drew Fear the Polo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somerville, MA Posts: 21,656 Thanked: 154 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I'd rather see Edwards win it all too bro, but I don't think he's got enough national support to carry the nomination. Obama, meanwhile, could probably leverage a win tonight into a realistic bid. "...and everything under the sun is in tune, but the sun is eclipsed by the moon." http://www.metalguitarist.org

01-03-2008, 04:26 PM	#5
The Dark Wolf *Canis lupis obscurus* Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toledo, Ohio. USA Posts: 15,477 Thanked: 94 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Edwards/Ron Paul. This is what I hope for. Then we'll have a decent shot on either side. http://www.wolf.org

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01-03-2008, 03:37 PM	#4
ohio_eric SS Contributor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 9,248 Thanked: 189 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	My guess is either Edwards or Obama. Kucinich already told his supporters that if they can't get the 15% necessary to caucus then to support Obama. So I lean ever so slightly towards Obama. Huckabee should win the on the GOP side.

01-03-2008, 05:24 PM	#6
Leon {##[====:::. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nebula, Ohio Posts: 12,586 Thanked: 91 Feedback Score: 20 reviews	i'm curious to know how much of an effect Iowa will have on New Hampshire.

01-03-2008, 06:53 PM	#7
lordofthesewers ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: seattle, wa Posts: 184 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Obama and Biden on the dem side the GOP can kill itself.

01-03-2008, 07:40 PM	#9
garcia3441 Tone Whore Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 5,433 Thanked: 88 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm kinda hoping for Biden and then Dodd. But I really don't think either has a snowball's chance in hell. "Im sick and tired of hearing things From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocritics All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth. " John Lennon

01-03-2008, 09:58 PM	#12
lordofthesewers ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: seattle, wa Posts: 184 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm glad Obama won. I take him over Edwards any day. Edwards is all populism and hatred of companies.

01-03-2008, 10:04 PM	#13
Abhorred Laurite Imp Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 808 Thanked: 33 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I will kill someone, possibly myself, if I ever have to say "President Huckabee." That sounds like a southern restaurant chain, for crying out loud! Come on down to President Huckabees for the oddest goddamned old fashioned meal you'll ever have! :headshot:

01-03-2008, 10:15 PM	#14
JBroll Hard-On For Freedom™ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Antonio, TX, USA Posts: 4,197 Thanked: 26 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Nevermind the fact that he's a bloody loon, his name sounds silly. ... Wow, US politics really are a joke... All things aside, if it comes down to Obama/Huckabee I have to say my money is on Obama. Not many things can make me like Obama... but comparison to Huckabee is one of them. Jeff

01-03-2008, 10:16 PM	#15
ohio_eric SS Contributor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 9,248 Thanked: 189 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I would say Iowa held to predictions. Now there will be a few more primaries and such and it will be interesting to see what happens. Giuliani finished 6th. He's supposed to be banking on Fla. I have an inkling he's toast.

01-03-2008, 10:23 PM	#17
Lee Above Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 1,367 Thanked: 25 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It'll be interesting to see what happens on Tuesday when the Evangelicals aren't carrying Huckabee. I would've rather seen Edwards come out on top, but I can live with Obama as well.

01-03-2008, 11:35 PM	#20
noodles I'm your huckleberry Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 17,910 Thanked: 303 Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Considering the speech he gave after he was announced the winner, I don't see him NOT winning in New Hampshire. He just set the tone for the next three primaries in one very brilliantly executed speech. It has been a while since we saw a candidate talk so boldly and passionately. I just hope he means what he says. I like Edwards, but I don't see much hope for him beyond Vice President. I think the fat lady is warming up backstage to sing Clinton's swan song. She is going to be hard pressed to win next week. Noodles Division: American Metal without the suck. kxksales@gmail.com

01-04-2008, 03:29 AM	#22
DDDorian Mantis Toboggan, M.D • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Middle of nowhere, Australia Posts: 4,295 Thanked: 225 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	In a parfect world, Obama would beam up Kucinich as a running partner against GOP nominee Ron Paul, but I guess watching Obama wipe the floor with Huckabee will be entertaining enough... Can someone explain to me what that Democrat caucous red-rover bullshit is all about? My brain hurts

01-04-2008, 09:19 AM	#24
oompa Ze.. Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pine Cone Pandaemonium Posts: 1,394 Thanked: 26 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ive followed this with interrest, but can someone explain to me shortly how this pre-elections thingy works? i know there will be one more in new hampshire, but when and will they go through all states? and then count the total or what? and isnt this only the democrats election of thier.. um.. democrat representative in the real elections come fall? thanks /oompa edit: please dont link some website with a 40 page explanation, i want the "election for dummies" version Eat Shit. Billions of flies can't be wrong.

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