[Jason]

Originally Posted by TotallyBr00tal

torture prisoners, what about the terrorists cutting prisoners heads off and filming it thats not bad huh wow the U.S. is so bad man. Our country has slowly become weak because of sissy liberal idiots like you twisting peoples minds with foolish ideals.

Dude seriously back off the name calling This isn't that type of forum, Keep it civil.

Just cause terrorist chop of peoples heads we should stoop to there levels and fuck with people?

[Metal Ken]

Originally Posted by TotallyBr00tal

torture prisoners, what about the terrorists cutting prisoners heads off and filming it thats not bad huh wow the U.S. is so bad man. Our country has slowly become weak because of sissy liberal idiots like you twisting peoples minds with foolish ideals.

Terrorists arent a government. Those terrorists should be tried on crimes against humanity right besides our president.

[JJ Rodriguez]

You are so ignorant and blindly patriotic it's almost unreal.

[Stitch]

The phrase 'full of vinegar' springs to mind.

Ken taught me it, now that I think about it.

[garcia3441]

Bush v. Constitution... Again

[ohio_eric]

Originally Posted by TotallyBr00tal

torture prisoners, what about the terrorists cutting prisoners heads off and filming it thats not bad huh wow the U.S. is so bad man. Our country has slowly become weak because of sissy liberal idiots like you twisting peoples minds with foolish ideals.

Oh goodness gracious young TotallyBr00tal has resorted to name calling and other such naughty tactics. How ever shall I respond? What ever shall I do?

Shall I resort to name calling? A sissified idiot such as myself probably shouldn't encourage confrontation now should I?

So instead of silly tactics like name calling I shall respond to young TotallyBr00tal's attack with the best weapon I have, the truth.

First, now maybe you remember this from first grade or so, but just because someone else does something doesn't mean that it's ok for us to do it. Sometimes you have to take the moral high ground. Sometimes you have to rise above your enemies and treat them humanely because it is the right thing to do. Just because waterboarding isn't as bad as beheading people doesn't make it right and doesn't give anyone permission to do it.

Here's another thing, torture doesn't work. Despite what you may see on the TV torture sucks as an intelligence gathering tool. People will say anything you want to hear if you torture them long enough. I have yet to read a single assessment of torture from someone without a political slant that endorses it as a means of intelligence gathering.

Finally calling people names marks you as have no sound basis for anything you're trying to prove. So you resort to this line of if you won't kick ass for your flag you're a pussy. It's just a pointless way to think and a dangerous one around here because it will get you banned.

[Jongpil Yun]

Originally Posted by TotallyBr00tal

Okay so basically sit back don't do anything and let our enemies kill us and destroy our country, great grand wonderful, you are the ultimate liberal wacko that is ruining this country.

To give your life is the greatest sacrifice. Apparently it's not one you're willing to make. Die in the name of freedom. You're so patriotic, why don't you join the military. Not 18? Lie to the recruiters. See you in Iraqistan.

Besides, do you honestly think that the islamic fascists could ever destroy America? Do you really think they could even do more than dent us? We absolutely crushed Iraq in days. 3000 people died on 9/11. That's a pinprick. If we wanted to, we could grind Iran, Isreal, Syria, Jordan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, etc, under our heel before they realized that their major cities had been nuked. But we don't. We don't need to, and it's against our ethic. America is the behemoth that can shrug that kind of thing off and keep going about the business of being the world's sole superpower. That's what would really show the Al Qaeda and Taliban dumbasses. Not our stupid underfunded and understaffed invasion.

If I were fatally wounded by a terrorist and Bush visited me on my deathbed pledging to compromise our freedoms and ideals, the very things that make this country great, to chase down a few dumbshit extremists running around the desert, my last words would be, "fuck you you fascist asshole."

[BigM555]

Originally Posted by ohio_eric

A sissified liberal idiot such as myself probably shouldn't encourage confrontation now should I?

There, fixed that for ya.

[noodles]

Originally Posted by TotallyBr00tal

Shaky ground dude the founders of this country were religous and believed in God strongly. As for the Pledge of allegiance being disgusting get out bro, your a disgrace for saying that, this is what I am trying to get at the fact that people do not believe in this country anymore with all these liberal retarded ideas. As for the wiretapping, you have something to hide bro your planning something. I would rather have wiretapping than go to work one day and have a fuckin plane blow it up, ok bro.

Hmm, where to begin. <cracks knuckles>

• The founding fathers of this country were predominantly Deist. I provided a link, since the entry on Conservapedia is inaccurate.
• The pledge is so blatantly, disgustingly pro-nationalism to the point of almost scaring me. Forcing kids to stand and blindly recite it is the sort of things they do in China and North Korea. Our country was founded by men who most identified with their home states, and felt that a powerful central government was the path to tyranny.
• Ideas that are liberal are not automatically retarded. Why do you think that everyone thinking and acting exactly the same is a good idea? Next thing you'll be telling me is that the problem with the middle east is that they're Arabs and therefore inferior to the rest of us humans.
• Yes, I do have things to hide. They're none of your fucking business. They're none of the fucking government's business. Do you think we should quarter troops for the military, too? Have you actually ever read the Constitution?
• I'd be less worried about the planes and more worried about the attack on our civil liberties, bro. "He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security." --Ben Franklin

[noodles]

Originally Posted by Jongpil Yun

Besides, do you honestly think that the islamic fascists could ever destroy America? Do you really think they could even do more than dent us? We absolutely crushed Iraq in days. 3000 people died on 9/11. That's a pinprick. If we wanted to, we could grind Iran, Isreal, Syria, Jordan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, etc, under our heel before they realized that their major cities had been nuked. But we don't. We don't need to, and it's against our ethic. America is the behemoth that can shrug that kind of thing off and keep going about the business of being the world's sole superpower. That's what would really show the Al Qaeda and Taliban dumbasses. Not our stupid underfunded and understaffed invasion.

Thank you. I generally try not to argue the point that 9/11 was nothing in the scheme of things, since I'm afraid of pissing off everyone in the near vicinity. Excellent post.