[Jongpil Yun]

Originally Posted by TotallyBr00tal

Curtailng of individual freedom I think our current situation may require that. Wow this statement sums up that you are the biggest lib and there is no way of changing you. So you think there was a more peaceful way of stopping the Japanese from bombing us and ending the Holocaust. Wow we would get real far with you as our leader, we might as well just give up and surrender cause I know you won't do anything.

Actually, I think nuking Hiroshima (not sure about Nagasaki) was the best way to end the war. Shows how much you know.

The difference, again, is that Japan is a god damned nation, and terrorism is a tactic. We went into a totally unjust pre-emptive war on a false premise, and bungled the whole thing by not sending half as many troops as we needed to because of incompetent leadership.

Second, this is a democracy. Americans have, in the past, suspended individual liberties, but get this, the Senate approved it and it was not done in secret by the executive alone.

I'm awed by your ability to read my character. If I were in Bush's place, and had decided that for some ungodly reason we needed to invade Iraq, I would have argued for sending at least 300k during the occupation to stabilize Iraq as quickly and thoroughly as possible. But I wouldn't have invaded Iraq because they had nothing to do with anything, and by doing so I would have squandered international support for our defense against extremists by fucking with the wrong people.

[Zepp88]

Originally Posted by Jongpil Yun

Actually, I think nuking Hiroshima (not sure about Nagasaki) was the best way to end the war. Shows how much you know.

The difference, again, is that Japan is a god damned nation, and terrorism is a tactic. We went into a totally unjust pre-emptive war on a false premise, and bungled the whole thing by not sending half as many troops as we needed to because of incompetent leadership.

Second, this is a democracy. Americans have, in the past, suspended individual liberties, but get this, the Senate approved it and it was not done in secret by the executive alone.

I'm awed by your ability to read my character.

I further this by commenting that you can't "beat" terrorism, it's a tactic, it's a mindset and it's a constant. It's NOT going away. Look at Ireland, they've had their fair share...

[garcia3441]

Originally Posted by TotallyBr00tal

Curtailng of individual freedom I think our current situation may require that. Wow this statement sums up that you are the biggest lib and there is no way of changing you. So you think there was a more peaceful way of stopping the Japanese from bombing us and ending the Holocaust. Wow we would get real far with you as our leader, we might as well just give up and surrender cause I know you won't do anything.

President Bush noted that the terrorists targeted the United States because we embrace liberty.

“The terrorists hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other,” the president said.

And yet he (and apparently you as well) want to take those very freedoms away. Why do you and the president hate freedom and the constitution?

[Jongpil Yun]

Originally Posted by garcia3441

President Bush noted that the terrorists targeted the United States because we embrace liberty.

“The terrorists hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other,” the president said.

It's a good example of his hypocrisy, but also for the most part wrong. There are those who think Islam should rule the world and that we should all die because of our freedom of religion and speech, but those are a minority even among the extremist terrorists.

[garcia3441]

Originally Posted by Jongpil Yun

It's a good example of his hypocrisy, but also for the most part wrong. There are those who think Islam should rule the world and that we should all die because of our freedom of religion and speech, but those are a minority even among the extremist terrorists.

And there are Bab'tists who have the same thoughts. My neighbor for one.

When you do a side by side comparison between the Islamic extremists and some of the hard-line right-wing Christians, I'm hard-pressed to find much of a difference between the two.

(I feel some neg. rep. coming my way. But oh well.)

[Zepp88]

Originally Posted by garcia3441

And there are Bab'tists who have the same thoughts. My neighbor for one.

"If everyone beleieved in OUR God there would be no more war, hunger, or death"

I know what you're talking about


"Don't beleive in that God, that God is evil. THIS God has candy "

[Jongpil Yun]

Originally Posted by garcia3441

And there are Bab'tists who have the same thoughts. My neighbor for one.

Probably true, but my understanding is that most of the people killing themselves over this shit are doing it for mostly different reasons.

Originally Posted by Zepp88

"If everyone beleieved in OUR God there would be no more war, hunger, or death"

I know what you're talking about


"Don't beleive in that God, that God is evil. THIS God has candy "

See the thread in Off-Topic about the most badass bible passages. Clearly, the only way to hold a religious debate is to see whose god can smite the most people with fires of brimstone.

[garcia3441]

Originally Posted by Zepp88

THIS God has candy "

Candy!!!! Which God has candy? I want some candy.

[Zepp88]

Originally Posted by garcia3441

Candy!!!! Which God has candy? I want some candy.

This one.

[garcia3441]

Originally Posted by Zepp88

This one.

I asked him for some peanut butter m&m's, but he said he was out so I won't be following him.