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Unread 12-04-2007, 04:32 AM   #226
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haha but i was still right

you were just more right.

still though if folk in the USA had to pay $8.31 it would be anarchy time lol
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Unread 12-04-2007, 04:39 AM   #227
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Actually, wait... that might be a *good* thing...

*plots scheme to make gasoline even more ridiculously expensive for the entire world*

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haha but i was still right

you were just more right.

still though if folk in the USA had to pay $8.31 it would be anarchy time lol
You were right in that UK gallons are 4.55 liters.

But my price of $8.31 would be an accurate conversion, while your gallon rate would be $10.01 which would be even more ridiculous.

Yeah, it would be anarchy in the US if gas prices got that expensive (without the dollar inflating as well). I can't even imagine $10 for a gallon of gas. That could cost over $100 to fill your tank.
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You were right in that UK gallons are 4.55 liters.

But my price of $8.31 would be an accurate conversion, while your gallon rate would be $10.01 which would be even more ridiculous.

Yeah, it would be anarchy in the US if gas prices got that expensive (without the dollar inflating as well). I can't even imagine $10 for a gallon of gas. That could cost over $100 to fill your tank.
As it stands, a saloon car over here will quite happily cost over £40 to fill up - $82.60.

Regardless of inflation or lack thereof of the USD, you guys simply don't pay what your petrol is worth, and you don't get taxed the obscene amount we do. Of the $2.20 per litre, between $1.20 and $1.60 is tax - I can't remember the exact figure.
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As it stands, a saloon car over here will quite happily cost over £40 to fill up - $82.60.

Regardless of inflation or lack thereof of the USD, you guys simply don't pay what your petrol is worth, and you don't get taxed the obscene amount we do. Of the $2.20 per litre, between $1.20 and $1.60 is tax - I can't remember the exact figure.
Then why HAVE a car? I really don't see the point. I mean, in most parts of the US, a car is absolutely necessary to get anywhere, but in many parts of Europe, it isn't (not all, obviously).

I don't have a car here in Japan or a motorcycle. Even if someone gave me one, I'd sell it immediately. They're just more expensive than they're worth: insurance, the cost of the vehicle itself, the insane price of gas, the costs involved for keeping it checked up and fixing it when it breaks... I'm glad that I live in a country where I am not inconvenienced at all by not owning an "automobile."

Edit: And I don't see why the British government is raping you on taxes. It'd be expensive enough JUST paying the taxes alone.
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Our entire infrastructure is based on the automobile, this is why people over here flip out over gas prices.

We've dug our own grave on this one.
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Edit: And I don't see why the British government is raping you on taxes. It'd be expensive enough JUST paying the taxes alone.
To help pay for their social services.

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Then why HAVE a car? I really don't see the point. I mean, in most parts of the US, a car is absolutely necessary to get anywhere, but in many parts of Europe, it isn't (not all, obviously).

I don't have a car here in Japan or a motorcycle. Even if someone gave me one, I'd sell it immediately. They're just more expensive than they're worth: insurance, the cost of the vehicle itself, the insane price of gas, the costs involved for keeping it checked up and fixing it when it breaks... I'm glad that I live in a country where I am not inconvenienced at all by not owning an "automobile."

Edit: And I don't see why the British government is raping you on taxes. It'd be expensive enough JUST paying the taxes alone.
because our public transportation system is for want of a better phrase '....ing shit'

If i want to get to my home from the city centre after 11pm at night and without owning a car i have 2 options Pay for a cab which would run me $22 ish or walk in which case i would be home approximatley 3 and a half hours after leaving

Our public transport is also expensive. So owning a vehicle is the lesser fo 2 evils really.

Most european countries have great public transport which runs 24/7 but we have very few services like that here in glasgow and none that run anywhere near where i live.
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^ What Nick said.

Its hardly an issue for me now - I live less than one minute from the city centre - but in my old house, out on the suburbs, you had one bus every half an hour. It meandered into town taking 45 minutes to achieve a journey that takes 20 in the car, charged me £2.30 (almost $5) for the privelage - and that was one-way - I then had to pay that coming home too. It stopped running at about 10pm and didnt start again til 6am, so you either didn't have nights out or you stayed with friends.

Parking is a bitch over here too, but at least in a car you don't get the baolute ....ing NUTTERS you do on the public transport system, which seems to be the den of the drunk, homeless, 15&pregnant and the religious loons who are very ill in the head.

The car doesn't smell of cider, vomit, urine and smoke, either.
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To help pay for their social services.

(Correct me if I'm wrong.)

sorry wait a minute while i wipe the coke i just sprayed all over my monitor off...

Our social services are absolutley horrible.

If i need some sort of surgery i could wait like 4 months before its done. even if its time sensitive.

I play for my countrys basketball team. if i want to play basketball in a regulation size gym it will cost me roughly £100 to rent the gym for an hr and in some places double that.

When i lived in america i could walk into an open gym session for free.

There were outdoor courts all over the place allong with places people could play football and baseball.

we hardly have any outdoor facilities here at all basketball courts are very rare and even soccer pitches which youd think would be all over the place are few and far between and the ones that are there are not maintained and so end up getting ripped down or left to fall down, grass gets overgrown etc.

(im using sport as an example here as its one im familiar with)

When we say we get raped on tax we really mean it because we give them something and never get it back!!!!!

the only people that benifit from our high taxation are people who break the law and or take drugs and who really dont deserve anything.



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^ What Nick said.

Its hardly an issue for me now - I live less than one minute from the city centre - but in my old house, out on the suburbs, you had one bus every half an hour. It meandered into town taking 45 minutes to achieve a journey that takes 20 in the car, charged me £2.30 (almost $5) for the privelage - and that was one-way - I then had to pay that coming home too. It stopped running at about 10pm and didnt start again til 6am, so you either didn't have nights out or you stayed with friends.

Parking is a bitch over here too, but at least in a car you don't get the baolute ....ing NUTTERS you do on the public transport system, which seems to be the den of the drunk, homeless, 15&pregnant and the religious loons who are very ill in the head.

The car doesn't smell of cider, vomit, urine and smoke, either.
Welcome to almost every city in the US, Stitch. Our public transit, with a few exceptions (New York, DC, Boston... maybe Philly and Chicago) is abysmal. Utterly.

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Our public transit, with a few exceptions (New York, DC, Boston... maybe Philly and Chicago) is abysmal. Utterly.
The closest bus stop to my house is about 9.5 miles.

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If i need some sort of surgery i could wait like 4 months before its done. even if its time sensitive.
Thankfully I didn't have to wait, but within weeks of being unable to pay I started getting calls from collection agencies.



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we hardly have any outdoor facilities here at all basketball courts are very rare and even soccer pitches which youd think would be all over the place are few and far between and the ones that are there are not maintained and so end up getting ripped down or left to fall down, grass gets overgrown etc.
Here you'd better have a gun. The neighborhoods that the outdoor courts are located aren't exactly the safest.

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true the public transport for where i lived in MO was....well there wasnt any!!

However you guys dont get raped first on the price of learning to drive (we must now sit a minimum of 20 lessons usually priced around £17.50 ($35 each) so $700 to take lessons we then have to sit a theory test which i passed first time and cost me $40 for the pleaseure but if you fail you need to pay each time and keep sitting it till you pass. You then have to sit the practical test which will cost your around $160 and is the same that if you fail you pay each time you re sit.

Then you pass and you get raped on the price of buying a car you can get old cheap shit ones but if you want something half decent you pay out the ass for it. Then you need insurance which for young people in our country is a ....ing nightmare. Some of my friends in america were driving 5l V8 trans am firebirds at the age of 17. Insurance here for that car for a 17 year old would cost about $2-3000 a year (yes your read that right).

Then you get raped on the price of petrol.

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Well you guys have described our public transport in major cities, where I live we have school bus, one taxi and a bus that leaves town once a day.
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Here you'd better have a gun. The neighborhoods that the outdoor courts are located aren't exactly the safest.

I played on many, and against a few dodgey looking characters but there was respect for the game and i never had any problems.

Also people didnt feel the need to destroy the baskets for the sake of it and they were always maintained.
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Welcome to almost every city in the US, Stitch. Our public transit, with a few exceptions (New York, DC, Boston... maybe Philly and Chicago) is abysmal. Utterly.
Yes, but my point is that this is negated by the relatively low cost of petrol, vehicles, learning to drive...

Over here BOTH are bloody expensive.

And what Nick said is totally right - the majority of state benefits go to people like the smackhead couple I followed walking home today - shouting and weaving , hitting each other and grinning their toothless smile. Creeps.
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And what Nick said is totally right - the majority of state benefits go to people like the smackhead couple I followed walking home today - shouting and weaving , hitting each other and grinning their toothless smile. Creeps.
lol so true
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I wasn't disagreeing with you...

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I played on many, and against a few dodgey looking characters but there was respect for the game and i never had any problems.

Also people didnt feel the need to destroy the baskets for the sake of it and they were always maintained.
That doesn't describe any of the courts here in Little Rock.

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you can get old cheap shit ones but if you want something half decent you pay out the ass for it.

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true the public transport for where i lived in MO was....well there wasnt any!!

However you guys dont get raped first on the price of learning to drive (we must now sit a minimum of 20 lessons usually priced around £17.50 ($35 each) so $700 to take lessons we then have to sit a theory test which i passed first time and cost me $40 for the pleaseure but if you fail you need to pay each time and keep sitting it till you pass. You then have to sit the practical test which will cost your around $160 and is the same that if you fail you pay each time you re sit.

Then you pass and you get raped on the price of buying a car you can get old cheap shit ones but if you want something half decent you pay out the ass for it. Then you need insurance which for young people in our country is a ....ing nightmare. Some of my friends in america were driving 5l V8 trans am firebirds at the age of 17. Insurance here for that car for a 17 year old would cost about $2-3000 a year (yes your read that right).

Then you get raped on the price of petrol.

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