[Jarrett]

Sudan's President Omar al-Bashir pardoned her and she has been released.

BBC NEWS | UK | Teddy row teacher to be released

It's interesting that all of the comments that I heard from Britsh Muslims were basically saying that the whole thing was just a cultural misunderstanding and a huge over reaction on the part of Sudan.

[The Dark Wolf]

I agree with you Nick, and think you said it very well.

The woman (a UK citizen, and teacher, BTW) was pardoned and is to be released. A least a shred of common sense prevails.

Sudan pardons Briton in teddy row - CNN.com

[Nick]

thanks,

Im happy to hear shes out, this has pissed me off far more than any other current event in the last few years.

[The Dark Wolf]

Add to it the whole ordeal with the young Saudi woman who was raped and now faces 200 lashes AND jail time, and I'm right there with you.

[distressed_romeo]

Originally Posted by Jarrett

Sudan's President Omar al-Bashir pardoned her and she has been released.

BBC NEWS | UK | Teddy row teacher to be released

It's interesting that all of the comments that I heard from Britsh Muslims were basically saying that the whole thing was just a cultural misunderstanding and a huge over reaction on the part of Sudan.

[distressed_romeo]

Originally Posted by Prometheus

In my experience, Muslims are a strange lot. They've got the whole get-'em-while-they're-young approach down to an art. A woman that works with me is Muslim. Born in South Africa, raised here, never been anywhere else. She's highly intelligent, very friendly, very funny, she is pretty cool by pretty anybody's standards. But, and I mean this, she scares me sometimes. You know about the news a while back where a woman was raped in Saudi, and SHE was sentenced to 200 lashes for the crime of not having a male guardian with her? My colleague, despite some misgivings, actually admitted that because it was a judgment made by Muslim men who have the authority, she was in favour of it. She didn't agree with it, really, but that wasn't the point - apparently, for a Muslim, religion supersedes EVERYTHING else. You're first a Muslim, then a South African, or an American, or whatever.

It blew my MIND!

Giving up common sense for the supposedly greater cause, slavishly obeying a bunch of people you've never met, that live in a country half a world away. And it's done willingly. Incredible.

And don't think I'm targeting Muslims with this, I contend that all religions do this. Which is why I'm not religious. Or, one of the reasons, anyway.

That's one of the saddest things I've ever heard...

[distressed_romeo]

Originally Posted by Nick

im going to say that that mindset is far more prevelant with the islamic faith.

Christians will say quite happily that they are british or american but all to often i see muslims here who will say that theyr alligance lies with whatever country their grandparents or whoever from their family origionally came here came from. Even though they are born and raised in this country.

Its not a good state of affairs.



Its funny that the people responsible for creating 'Islamophobia' are the people who are so quick to complain about it.

All they are doing is making the world hate their religion and see them as troublemakers with massive chips on their shoulders about everything.

Agree on all points. It's a wierd state of affairs.

[7StringofAblicK]

I'm going to name my next pet Muhammad, then I will call my local newspaper and tell them about it.

[7StringofAblicK]

Originally Posted by distressed_romeo

That's one of the saddest things I've ever heard...

+1

It just doesn't make sense

[noodles]

Originally Posted by Nick

im going to say that that mindset is far more prevelant with the islamic faith.

Christians will say quite happily that they are british or american but all to often i see muslims here who will say that theyr alligance lies with whatever country their grandparents or whoever from their family origionally came here came from. Even though they are born and raised in this country.

When I was 20, my 18yo girlfriend broke up with me to get married. Yes, you read that right. Her parents arranged a marriage between her and a 32yo man from New York who she never met. She was born and raised in this country. She was very much the typical American teenager, but she refused to disobey her father.

When I was 26, I asked a Iranian woman in my building out. She was very interested in me, but refused. Her parents still lived in Iran, which meant her brother was in charge of her, and her brother refused to allow her to date white men. The fact that she a modern woman meant nothing, because she refused to go against the will of the man who "cared" for her "well being".

These were women who dressed American, were independent, went clubbing with their friends, and didn't really practice their faith. In the case of the second, she didn't even live with her brother. However, she would speak to him every day, and he would tell her exactly what he approved or disapproved of. The one time I actually met him, I told him to do his sister a favor and move the fuck back to Iran and take Allah with him, because we try to avoid enslaving women in America.