[Jason]

Originally Posted by mefrommiddleearth

You're all ignoring me ignoring my brilliant idea of a penal colony on mars you will pay



he in his own way (as have i) has expressed his frustration with the subject the constant grinding clash of opinions surrounding it. It gets to the point where people just want to get off the damn subject permanently so that they can have stable blood pressure for the rest of their lives.

OK if it goes you so hot around the collar then don't read it.

[HighGain510]

Originally Posted by garcia3441

It's not necessarily hopelessness, it's also the lure of easy money. Seriously, which would you prefer earning $7.50 per hour flipping burgers OR making $300 a day selling crack or meth?

+1, that sounds about right to me. See, that's how I look at it too. If more of these "criminals" would WORK jobs instead of saying "it's hopeless, I'll never get a job, I'll just steal or shoot someone and take their money" I think the problem wouldn't be as bad. I would love to be able to make 3K in a day, but I would NEVER go about doing so in a manner that was in any way illegal. Some people say "why don't I rob that bank?" and they are thinking that seriously. Before you go saying "well, maybe they CAN'T get hired because they're poor or they have a previous record holding them back" I think just about anyone that REALLY tries to get a job, even if it's a $5.50/hr job making burgers and fries, can get a job.

[mefrommiddleearth]

Originally Posted by .jason.

OK if it goes you so hot around the collar then don't read it.

I think I need to refrase what I've said. This is an important issue, this is an issue that should be disscussed, this is an issue that must be resolved(talking about criminal issues and the death penalty here) but it is frustrating simply not reading it is not really an option or at least most peoples sense of ethics and their moral compultions won't let them view it as one regardless of how "hot under the collar" it makes them. It's perfect provocation for escapism.

[jtm45]

"Killing people quicker" ain't no solution to nothing.

Sorry, but i think the Death penalty sucks majorly.
It's down-right barbarism and fucking primitive.

[Aaron]

alright this is going a little far don't you think, it sounds like everyone is getting pissed

[Carrion]

Should the death penalty be used for crimes other than murder?
Yes 67%

Oh come on. Everybody, no matter what race, creed, or religion realizes that killing a human is the ultimate "sin" or "evil" you can do. I don't believe a child molester or drug dealer should serve a death sentence. For one, child molestation is normally a mental disease that requires treatment.

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by Carrion

Should the death penalty be used for crimes other than murder?
Yes 67%

Oh come on. Everybody, no matter what race, creed, or religion realizes that killing a human is the ultimate "sin" or "evil" you can do. I don't believe a child molester or drug dealer should serve a death sentence. For one, child molestation is normally a mental disease that requires treatment.

really, thats interesting, i did not know that

[Drew]

Aaron, post intelligently or stay out of this forum.

/mod

[Drew]

Originally Posted by HighGain510

+1, that sounds about right to me. See, that's how I look at it too. If more of these "criminals" would WORK jobs instead of saying "it's hopeless, I'll never get a job, I'll just steal or shoot someone and take their money" I think the problem wouldn't be as bad. I would love to be able to make 3K in a day, but I would NEVER go about doing so in a manner that was in any way illegal. Some people say "why don't I rob that bank?" and they are thinking that seriously. Before you go saying "well, maybe they CAN'T get hired because they're poor or they have a previous record holding them back" I think just about anyone that REALLY tries to get a job, even if it's a $5.50/hr job making burgers and fries, can get a job.

That's an absolute copout. You would NEVER do that because, as ohio eric points out, you believe it's possible to make good money legitimately. You have options. In the scenario we're talking, these people don't.

[ohio_eric]

Originally Posted by Drew

That's an absolute copout. You would NEVER do that because, as ohio eric points out, you believe it's possible to make good money legitimately. You have options. In the scenario we're talking, these people don't.

I worked as a substitute teacher for a couple years and I saw dozens of kids that for one reason or another didn't give a shit about anything. They were in and out of juvenile detention and just didn't care. It was depressing as Hell.