End The Silence

[matt397]

On March 12 2011, the Fukushima nuclear power plant went into full meltdown. If you hadn't heard about this yet you can read about it here, Wiki Article.
Over the past year or so, there has been little press about this, and little done. This single event has the potential completely wipe the planet clean of human and animal life and it's being treated like nothing and being left in the hands of people who are either too stupid to know what there dealing with or too proud to ask for help.

This article is a real eye opener and I think everyone should take a couple minutes even to just glance through it...

Thirteen months have passed since the Fukushima reactors exploded, and a U.S. Senator finally got off his ass and went to Japan to see what is going on over there.
What he saw was horrific.


And now he is saying that we are in big trouble.


See the letter he sent to U.S. Ambassador to Japan Ichiro Fujisaki, Secretary of Energy Steven Chu, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and NRC’s Chairman Gregory Jaczko here.
But what is so ironic about this is that we have been in this heap of trouble since March of 2011. March 17th, to be exact, when the plume of radioactive materials began bombarding the west coast of California.
And Oregon. And Washington. And British Columbia. And later Maine, Europe, and everywhere in between.
Independent researchers, nuke experts, and scientists, from oceanography to entomology and everywhere in between, having been trying to sound the alarm ever since.


The scientists most upset are those who have studied the effects of radiation on health. I’ll say it again, so its really clear: we are in big trouble.


The most preliminary reports of soil contamination are starting to come in from the USGS, who has seemed reluctant to share this information. Los Angeles, California, Portland, Oregon, and Boulder, Colorado, so far have the highest radioactive particle contamination out of the entire US.

That being said, every single city tested across the country showed contamination from Fukushima. What is even more alarming, however, about the numbers coming in, is that they are from samples taken April 5th, of last year.


The Tokyo Electric Power Company, or TEPCO, has only recently confirmed that there were three meltdowns, and they have been ongoing, unabated, for thirteen months, and no effort has been made to contain them.


Technology has to be developed/invented to deal with the melted out corium under the reactors. Until then, they will keep doing what they have been doing.


TEPCO just keeps dumping water on them, after which they let it pour into the ocean, and steam up through the ground, every second of every day. The jet stream, and a highly dynamic portion of our atmosphere called the troposphere, have been swirling around massive amounts of radioactive particles and settling them out, mostly in rain, over the entire northern hemisphere, especially the west coast of North America, from Alaska down to Baja and even further.

Iodine, cesium, strontium, plutonium, uranium, and a host of other fission products have been coming directly from Japan to the west coast for thirteen months.


Maybe you have heard about sick seals, polar bears, tainted fish, mutations in dandelions and fruits and vegetables, possibly even animals already, and seaweed.

In fact the kelp from Corona del Mar contained 40,000,000 bcq/kg of radioactive iodine, as reported in Scientific American several weeks ago.


If you don’t know your becquerels, its a lot. That’s what your pacific fish feed on. And that was only ONE isotope reported. There were up to 1600 different isotopes that have been floating around in our air, pouring out of the reactors, and steaming out of the ground, every second of every day, for 13 months.


And there has been silence from our mainstream media, for which the depths of depravity are so severe I will devote an entire article just to the “why” at a future time.


But back to the research: reports in the past week indicate the pollen in southern California is radioactive now too, and it is flying around, and if you live there and go outside, you are breathing it in. And so are your children.


Along with fission products blowing over from Japan. And radiation in your drinking water. And in your rain. And in the fish you are eating. And your vegetables. And the milk supply. And its happening every second, of every day. For 13 months. Are you starting to see a problem here?


Problem is, that’s not even the biggest problem. The biggest problem is what Senator Wyden is all bent out of shape about, even though independent researchers and nuke experts have been warning about this for a year.


And that is that the Reactor #4 building is on the verge of collapsing. Seismicity standards rate the building at a zero, meaning even a small earthquake could send it into a heap of rubble. And sitting at the top of the building, in a pool that is cracked, leaking, and precarious even without an earthquake, are 1565 fuel rods (give or take a few), some of them “fresh fuel” that was ready to go into the reactor on the morning of March 11th when the earthquake and tsunami hit.

If they are MOX fuel, containing 6% plutonium, one fuel rod has the potential to kill 2.89 billion people. If this pool collapses, as Senator Wyden is now saying too, we would face a mass extinction event from the release of radiation in those rods.
That is, if we aren’t in one already. Nuke experts like Arnie Gundersen and Helen Caldicott are prepared to evacuate their families to the southern hemisphere if that happens. It is that serious.
So now you know, if you didn’t before. We are in big trouble.


Get informed. Start paying attention to this. Every single statement in this article is verifiable, and I will continue to verify and validate the seriousness of this situation at every opportunity I have.


This may be the most important thing you ever pay attention to, for the sake of your family, friends, your neighbors, every one you know and meet, all of humanity.


It’s been thirteen months, you have some catching up to do.

Here is a link to the original article: http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2012/04/22/fukushima-is-falling-apart-are-you-ready-for-a-mass-extinction-event/#.T5ww5UJQPai.facebook

[Guitarman700]

Your link leads me to sevenstring.org, and until I see some proof, I don't believe you. Also, Wikipedia isn't a reliable source of anything.

[matt397]

Originally Posted by Guitarman700

Your link leads me to sevenstring.org, and until I see some proof, I don't believe you. Also, Wikipedia isn't a reliable source of anything.

Link fixed. But really ? What's there not to believe ? That it happened ? Or the severity of it ? ?

[Guitarman700]

Originally Posted by matt397

Link fixed. But really ? What's there not to believe ? That it happened ? Or the severity of it ? ?

I have multiple friends on the ground in Japan, some in that area. This is bullshit. There's some radiation, yeah, but it's no longer an disaster in urgent need of attention, and not even anywhere near an "extinction level event". There's nothing more to do but wait for the radiation to subside.
Please, don't spread disinformation. It leads to bad thinking and bad logic.

[summit101]

("if it wasn't on CNN it didn't happen........")

JK

[matt397]

Originally Posted by summit101

("if it wasn't on CNN it didn't happen........")

JK

Couldn't have said it any better myself.....

[Guitarman700]

Originally Posted by matt397

Couldn't have said it any better myself.....

I don't watch CNN. I know people in Japan.
I guess an internet blog is more reliable than eyewitness testimony.
Nice to see logic and critical thinking are alive and well.
I weep for this generation.

[Blind Theory]

To echo the sentiment in here, this will NOT even come close to mass extinction of anything. The radiation will only reach out about 250 miles in any direction (from what I recall, someone correct me if you know the correct mileage). This meltdown might be on par with Chernobyl but even if it is, that isn't saying much in the way of mass extinction since we are all still here. Don't worry about it. Media tries to hype things up way too much.

[matt397]

Originally Posted by Guitarman700

I don't watch CNN. I know people in Japan.
I guess an internet blog is more reliable than eyewitness testimony.
Nice to see logic and critical thinking are alive and well.
I weep for this generation.

How long do your friends sit in that pot before they realize that water is boiling ?
The logic behind my belief in the possibility that nothing has been done to properly contain this disaster is the silence around it and the fact that theres been no declaration of the fact that the situation is under control.
That's all well an great you have friends that live near there. Wonderful. Doesn't mean anything.
Spend the rest of your life with blinders on if you want.

[Guitarman700]

Originally Posted by matt397

How long do your friends sit in that pot before they realize that water is boiling ?
The logic behind my belief in the possibility that nothing has been done to properly contain this disaster is the silence around it and the fact that theres been no declaration of the fact that the situation is under control.
That's all well an great you have friends that live near there. Wonderful. Doesn't mean anything.
Spend the rest of your life with blinders on if you want.

I don't have blinders on. You're operating on a series of logical fallacies and spreading disinformation. My having friends there DOES mean that I have firsthand knowledge of the culture, people, area and situation that you don't. Just because some guy wrote it on a blog on the internet does not mean it's true. That's called being a skeptic. What you're doing is called being gullible and jumping to conclusions.

[matt397]

Originally Posted by Blind Theory

To echo the sentiment in here, this will NOT even come close to mass extinction of anything. The radiation will only reach out about 250 miles in any direction (from what I recall, someone correct me if you know the correct mileage). This meltdown might be on par with Chernobyl but even if it is, that isn't saying much in the way of mass extinction since we are all still here. Don't worry about it. Media tries to hype things up way too much.

Chernobyl was 1 reactor meltdown. Fukushima had 3 reactors meltdown.

[Guitarman700]

Originally Posted by matt397

Chernobyl was 1 reactor meltdown. Fukushima had 3 reactors meltdown.

Several points:
1.There were no meltdowns at Fukushima, only a single partial.
2.The construction methods of the two plants are COMPLETELY different.
3.The radiation, even in the case of a meltdown, would only spread about 300 miles, not kill all life on earth.
It's becoming quite clear you don't understand science or how reactors work.

[matt397]

Originally Posted by Guitarman700

Several points:
1.There were no meltdowns at Fukushima, only a single partial.
2.The construction methods of the two plants are COMPLETELY different.
3.The radiation, even in the case of a metldown, would only spread about 300 miles, not kill all life on earth.
It's becoming quite clear you don't understand science or how reactors work.

I never once said I was a ....ing physicist, just concerned, and I find it extremely hard to believe that a nuclear event of that proportion happens and a year later it's all good don't worry about it, just pretend it didn't happen.
I realize disinformation can be disheartening and annoying and if Im wrong then Im wrong an I apologize.

[Church2224]

This site is a Conspiracy Theorist's heaven. I would not believe a word of it. If it were a lot worse than we would notice a few things going that would seem shady by the government and people would start asking more questions..

Backing up disinformation, internet hype and conspiracy nuts like the asshole who wrote this article is how bullshit and scare tactics arise and feed the exact same people who think December 21, 2012 is the end. Please don't support people like that and be sure to check your sources like your teachers in school said. Guitarman and Blind said it perfectly, and I would take their word for it.

Got to love internet, anyone can say anything and the sad thing is other people believe it. Fear is something that all people grasp a hold of.

I will start worrying when ESP stops making my guitars

[Church2224]

Originally Posted by matt397

I never once said I was a ....ing physicist, just concerned, and I find it extremely hard to believe that a nuclear event of that proportion happens and a year later it's all good don't worry about it, just pretend it didn't happen.
I realize disinformation can be disheartening and annoying and if Im wrong then Im wrong an I apologize.

If you are not a physicist, then why comment on the situation and stir the pot? Why rely on the source of some random website?

This reminds me of that thread a couple months back on "China and Russia Prepare for World War III" or something like that. Well that war has not started yet...doubt it will anytime soon, but I digress.

The Powerplant Event did not get that much attention because

1. Japanese are that damn good at building a reactor and coming together to rectify the problem. Was it a tragedy? Yes. But I am sure that situations like this were something the Japanese and other governments were ready to deal with. I mean look at the way they build cars, guitars, engines, electronics, ect. You think that they would not put the same type of care, organization and engineering into something that significant? It is part of their culture to do so.

2. A lot of other things are going on in the world for the media to fill us with bull shit on, so they moved on to something else.

[Guitarman700]

To be fair, the only people who are being stubborn about this is Tokyo Light and Power. The average Japanese citizen is beyond furious and reform is quickly happening. I'm even surprised at how fast things are moving, and I'm intimately familiar with Japanese logistics and government.

[Church2224]

Originally Posted by Guitarman700

To be fair, the only people who are being stubborn about this is Tokyo Light and Power. The average Japanese citizen is beyond furious and reform is quickly happening. I'm even surprised at how fast things are moving, and I'm intimately familiar with Japanese logistics and government.

Oh I would be pissed as well. They should have known the risks. Kudos to the people for taking time to do something about it.

Now if only America did that more often...

[highlordmugfug]

Originally Posted by matt397

I realize disinformation can be disheartening and annoying and if Im wrong then Im wrong an I apologize.

This sentence alone saved you from a severely stern talking to.

Also, what Church2224 said.

[Guitarman700]

Originally Posted by Church2224

Oh I would be pissed as well. They should have known the risks. Kudos to them for taking time to do something about it.

Now if only America did that more often...

The coverup, as minor as it was, was quickly brought to light and the conspirators were named and shamed. Regardless of the need for social and civil reform in Japan, they are highly efficient, and this is no exception. A meltdown can't happen. It would never be allowed, now that the reactor is under the national eye. People don't understand how rapid and efficient Japanese disaster response and logistics are. FEMA this is not.

[r3tr0sp3ct1v3]

Why would you make a thread about something you read on the internet? Trying to "inform" people. Go drink some punch Jim Jones

[Necris]

This is some high level jackassery.

"More Cesium in Reactor 4 SFP than all nukes ever exploded."
Just being in the reactor doesn't make it a threat. A minor leak would be cause for concern but wouldn't trigger an extinction level event, if the reactor had blown like Chernobyl then and only then would there be a large scale threat to the human race and the world in general but they didn't even come close. Nice sensationalism though.

If we were actually 13 months into an extinction level event we would be beyond the point of no return, literally nothing could be done to rectify the situation so the only thing articles like this would contribute to would be mass panic before the inevitable death of everyone and everything on planet earth.

[matt397]

Originally Posted by Church2224

If you are not a physicist, then why comment on the situation and stir the pot?

Yeah because everyone needs an indepth education on everything they speak about and then and only then are there opinions worth any weight at all. I'm sorry but if this were the case then internet forums wouldn't exist my friend.

Sorry for stirring the pot. I'll go hide in my hole now. Dammit, I can't find my tinfoil hat anywhere !

[Bigfan]

Originally Posted by matt397

everyone needs an indepth education on everything they speak about

Yup.

[Mexi]

while I would take a source like this with a grain of salt, the Japanese government is notorious for misleading their people about the severity of domestic issues. And the thing is that, culturally, Japanese people have strong faith in their government and are more likely to stick it out and hope for the best than freak out over the perceived still-looming threat.

[JamesM]

The situation is actually as under control as humanly possible and some of the world's best and brightest are working on it.

Don't worry.

OH, and they're also gonna be building a new plant complex in Georgia, it's recently been approved (and that's huge, hasn't been a new one since what, the seventies?). Can't wait to see people freak over that.