Second Class Citizens: The Gay Rights Documentary

[Waelstrum]

^ Not just for Americans. In many cases (mostly wars) Australia will follow America's lead. We have a lesbian front bench minister, and our Prime Minister still isn't moving forward on this issue.

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

Originally Posted by Brandon

Absolutely! We will convene and produce the most brutal music know to man.

Queercore! :lol

There shall never be anything more brutal, yet more fabulous....

[Hemi-Powered Drone]

Originally Posted by ghstofperdition

@Dragonblade
Our chances look pretty good. Everything I'm hearing thus far (which isn't much admittedly) shows that SCOTUS is likely to uphold California's ninth district court's ruling. If that happens, it could have HUGE ramifications. By ruling that prop 8 is unconstitutional, that sets the stage for similar rulings in other states. The ripple effect I'm hoping for here is that this will lead to the ruling that outlawing same-sex marriage is unconstitutional, which therefore would lead to it being legal everywhere in the U.S. That's why this ruling is so important. It will decide a LOT of the LGBTQ community's future.

I watch and wait with baited breath in the hopes of becoming an equal with other Americans...

Sadly we have to wait a few years for that to happen. At least it will happen, though.

[Brandon]

Originally Posted by HeHasTheJazzHands

Queercore! :lol

There shall never be anything more brutal, yet more fabulous....

Just to be sure, we're not talking about the return of glam, are we?



On topic: Apart from what I usually see in the media, I have become very happy as of late. I am finding that there are so many people who are supportive of this and me personally, whether they be personal friends or acquaintances from afar on this forum. Every day I am more grateful for that. Kudos to you all.

[DrakkarTyrannis]

Originally Posted by HeHasTheJazzHands

Queercore! :lol

There shall never be anything more brutal, yet more fabulous....

Ya'll bishes need a big black satanist metalhead drag queen. I have come to answer your prayers.

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

Originally Posted by DrakkarTyrannis

Ya'll bishes need a big black satanist metalhead drag queen. I have come to answer your prayers.

[Pooluke41]

Originally Posted by DrakkarTyrannis

Ya'll bishes need a big black satanist metalhead drag queen. I have come to answer your prayers.

I may not be gay, but I can appreciate the Beauty of Staccia Tori Rape.

[Varcolac]

It's a big black dude dressed as a cybergoth nymphette. Gay or straight or any other number on the Kinsey scale, that shit's confusing.

[Pooluke41]

Originally Posted by Varcolac

It's a big black dude dressed as a cybergoth nymphette. Gay or straight or any other number on the Kinsey scale, that shit's confusing.

Doesn't matter, had sex.

[Konfyouzd]

Originally Posted by Varcolac

It's a big black dude dressed as a cybergoth nymphette. Gay or straight or any other number on the Kinsey scale, that shit's confusing.

It's like Ving Rames in that Chuck and Larry movie.

[DrakkarTyrannis]

Originally Posted by Konfyouzd

It's like Ving Rames in that Chuck and Larry movie.

Bitch do I look like Ving Rhames to you?




Shit..wrong pic..I mean








Speaking of him though...that man is gorgeous..well not in drag

[broj15]

It honestly makes me sad to think that gay marriage may never be legal in my lifetime. I hope it happens, but, given the moral climate of some states I feel like there is still alot of progression that needs to happen before it can be achieved. Two of my best friends are gay it pisses me off that i will never get to see them experience the happiness that some people do on thier wedding day.
I mean, it doesn't even have to be a religious ceremony, even if it's a non denominational affair performed by a Judge or a Boat Captain (I'm pretty sure they can still marry people).
I also find the whole argument of "ruining the sanctity of marriage" to be flawed. When you get down to it, in a legal sense, marriage is nothing more than a contract recognized by the law. People "ruin the sanctity of contracts" all the time when the embezzle money, steal, cheat people out of goods and services, etc. Yea, people get pissed off about it, but they don't flip out like some people do over the issue of gay marriage. Since when does wanting to marry someone you love make you less of a person than someone who screws over people that trust them?
I'm not gay so i don't exactly have a horse in the race, but since the issue can directly effect some people that are close to me i just felt compelled to give my input.

Edit: As far as queercore goes, check out Pansy Division. Easily one of my fav punk bands.

[flint757]

Originally Posted by broj15

It honestly makes me sad to think that gay marriage may never be legal in my lifetime. I hope it happens, but, given the moral climate of some states I feel like there is still alot of progression that needs to happen before it can be achieved. Two of my best friends are gay it pisses me off that i will never get to see them experience the happiness that some people do on thier wedding day.
I mean, it doesn't even have to be a religious ceremony, even if it's a non denominational affair performed by a Judge or a Boat Captain (I'm pretty sure they can still marry people).
I also find the whole argument of "ruining the sanctity of marriage" to be flawed. When you get down to it, in a legal sense, marriage is nothing more than a contract recognized by the law. People "ruin the sanctity of contracts" all the time when the embezzle money, steal, cheat people out of goods and services, etc. Yea, people get pissed off about it, but they don't flip out like some people do over the issue of gay marriage. Since when does wanting to marry someone you love make you less of a person than someone who screws over people that trust them?
I'm not gay so i don't exactly have a horse in the race, but since the issue can directly effect some people that are close to me i just felt compelled to give my input.

Edit: As far as queercore goes, check out Pansy Division. Easily one of my fav punk bands.

It is flawed on the grounds that most marriages in this country are a HUGE sham anyways. Some people get married to get in the country, some do it just because it "feels like the right time", as far as my personal observations go it is a rarity that 2 people get married for the right reasons (because they love each other above anything else). Divorce is common in my family so I have a skewed perception.

In terms of adoption. My sister lost her kids (why because she is a terrible person nuff said) she is straight and in a relationship. To pretend that being straight makes you an "AWESOME" parent is ridiculous.

My mom pointed out to me once even that every time they legalized gay marriage people come out and bulk to get married. That's her theory of corruption. I don't think she realizes why though on 2 levels. For one it gets repealed almost every time (until recently in some states) it gets legalized so people are just trying to make it in time in hopes that they can be grandfathered in. Secondly, some things can't be taken to the supreme court unless a law has been broken or an action has been taken. (In some regards I find that to be ridiculous) I'll never understand that in many cases someone has to be a lifer or on death row before supreme court can have a say on it, but that is a discussion for another time.

Point? The argument against it is unfounded even if their arguments deserved consideration.

Me, personally, I am straight in the sense that I like women, but I am a fairly asexual person. Don't have a strong desire to be with someone else emotionally and respect women enough to not deceive them to my bedroom.

[ghstofperdition]

Best pro-gay marriage slogan I've seen yet:
"Legislating against gay marriage because it's against your beliefs is like banning people from eating because you're on a diet."

Win!

[Karl Hungus]

Hey folks, y'all remember me?

Well, it might come as a shock to you (well, maybe not some of you, btw looking awesome Drak!) but I caught the trans too.

[DrakkarTyrannis]

Originally Posted by Karl Hungus

Hey folks, y'all remember me?

Well, it might come as a shock to you (well, maybe not some of you, btw looking awesome Drak!) but I caught the trans too.

Ugh...SUCH a trend follower

Just kidding. Glad you're able to be open about it now

[Karl Hungus]

Originally Posted by DrakkarTyrannis

Ugh...SUCH a trend follower

Just kidding. Glad you're able to be open about it now

Bitch, I started it, you just copies me.



stops copies me

[DrakkarTyrannis]

Originally Posted by Karl Hungus

Bitch, I started it, you just copies me.



stops copies me

But I make it look SICK'NING!


Ya know I have to say, we have a seriously diverse group on this forum..it's pretty damn cool

[DrakkarTyrannis]

HOLY SHIT


U SINGLE!??

[Waelstrum]

Originally Posted by DrakkarTyrannis

HOLY SHIT


U SINGLE!??

Wait... I thought you were into guys... what's going on?

[DrakkarTyrannis]

Originally Posted by Waelstrum

Wait... I thought you were into guys... what's going on?

Well I am...but if they're all out of beef..I suppose fish is alright if I'm hungry enough

[Waelstrum]

That was my dinner last night (in a non-metaphorical sense.)

EDIT: Also, now that you say that, your previous post is not so much of a compliment anymore...

[Karl Hungus]

Sorry to disappoint, but I've got a girlfriend.

[ry_z]

Originally Posted by Karl Hungus

I know, I know... I don't have Drak's style, but I rock the geek girl look.

Huge props for the Firefly shirt.

[Karl Hungus]

Originally Posted by ry_z

Huge props for the Firefly shirt.

Thanks! I do like my sci fi