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Unread 09-24-2011, 05:33 PM   #51
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I was the really skinny kid with the huge head growing up, bully ....ing magnet.

What did I do when I got bullied? What everyone and the media tells you to do... I beat the shit out of kids...

Unfortunately that got me kicked out of the specific school in the 4th grade xD

But uh, the bullies ended up victims of me... and I never bullied anyone. People just need to learn to handle their shit better.
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Unread 09-24-2011, 06:10 PM   #52
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I honestly think the problem is lawyers are writing all these laws to keep income flowing in and fund the greedy legal institution. I work for a law firm and we have a partner that wrote 2 books on the legal system being out of control and over-legislation.

Now if bullying laws come into effect it won't just be a school/parents/police issue, now there will be lawyers involved and suing for large sums of money!! All of which the lawyer gets his income from. So lawyers jump on this type of opportunity to make further laws to keep their big checks flowing in. Call me a nut but I wholeheartedly believe this.


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Not to mention how many people will out and out lie or go overboard with something (ie everyone in every lawsuit ever...not really but you know what I mean ), so more bureaucracy, more money out of normal people's hands into that of the one who whines the most, and nothing actually getting done. Huzzah.

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Violence is not the answer here, dude.

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I dunno, every bully needs to be beaten the shit out of at least once. Pretty sure it will make them look at things differently.
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I dunno, every bully needs to be beaten the shit out of at least once. Pretty sure it will make them look at things differently.
Sometimes assertion does work. This guy had been bullying me and another friend because we were smaller than him. He said we wouldn't do anything. He kept walking by us hitting us in the head so we got up and made him stop. He also had just had surgery on his elbow so threats and "attempts" at injuring that elbow shut him down quickly. Sometimes you just need to get physical. Otherwise your message won't get across. It's as simple as that.
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Once my friend was getting bullied, so I threw a skipping rope around the bully's neck and dragged him across the playground. Didn't get bothered by him again.
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bully' are pretty simple. thye pray on people hoping that they will not retaliate. they're looking for a specific reaction so they can continue their bullying. if they get a reaction of confrontation, it will stop.

i remember in high school there was this dumb shit, who talked to shit to me but only when his friends were around. at the time, i was boxing and nobody knew since i was skipping out on class to do it. after i noticed him making snide remarks, i was actually training to .... him up real bad and made that my motivation to train harder. so one day i went up to him when his friends weren't around and i said, "whats your problem with me?" to which he replied, "i am just joking, man. chill." it's funny because i hadn't even gotten to the part that i wanted to fight him.

i wanted to punch him there and then, but the time had passed. after that nothing happened. it's strange that he wanted to be my friend afterwards though. every conversation he tried to have with me, i gave him the notion i wasn't interested in what he was spewing.

confontration is the ultimate weapon against bully'. ignoring them aint going to do shit and having someone else fight your ....ing battles isn't going to work either e.g. the government.

this is the schoolboards job and they don't do shit because they don't care. they really have to screen these teachers and weed out the ones who're just looking for a job. i remember in my elementary school days my teachers were very passionate about teaching. a better connection with the students as well. i think bully' are easy to notice and if the teachers really cared they would step in themselves.
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what ever happened to good parenting?

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seriously, all these kinds of issues can be solved if parents would step up and do their job.

you find out your kid a bully? why dont you take a look at what you do that makes him act out (they get their traits from you!). then set him (or her) down and teach him to show others respect, no matter what, take necessary steps to imprint this thinking into their life

find out you kid is being bullied? teach your kid to learn how to deal and adapt with these people, they'll always exist, and show that they usually act out to compensate for how bad their own life is.

i got bullied on occasion when i was in school
i learned to fight with words.

example: one time in wood shop (9th grade?) this fat redneck kid, thought he was funny, kept making smart remarks, and one day he said the wrong thing
i snapped, got loud with him, told him how the only reason he makes fun of other people is because they weigh less than him, and he's a miserable waste, so he takes his time insulting others to try and make himself feel better, and look cool to everyone else.

no one laughed that time

when you break people down to their basics, and expose them, its hard for them to react, because they know how true it is

never had an issue with that kid from that day on

i never got in a physical confrontation, i was taught to avoid that by all means, and i learned how to carry my own with words

who do i have to thank: my parents
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Countless times I've seen the parents of problem children and it starts to make sense. Idiocy breeds idiocy.
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Often a bully is more insecure than those they are bullying, which is why a bully often backs down when someone confronts them. They are not big nor strong, physically or mentally which is the exact reason they bully to make themselfs feel the above.

...Gaga wants to speak to obama about this, ok so where is her politcal training and why should her word matter any more than any one elses. I hate how people can become famous and influencial if enough money is just thrown their way for the crap they produce instead of becoming famous for something truely 'worth' being 'famous' for.

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She wouldn't have made herself look anywhere near as stupid if she had instead said that she wanted to speak with Michelle Obama about it.


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cause that would have been just as effective

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cause that would have been just as effective
Michelle Obama is a scary lady if she wants to be and I'm pretty sure it's not really about getting something done anyway. It's about "increasing awareness." She'll probably sit down and have a chat IF either party even agrees. And they'll televise some small portion of that meeting where it seems like they're "really getting to the heart of the issue." Then nothing will change bc you can't get rid of bullies, bigots, criminals, etc or anyone you disagree with. They're simply always going to exist... You might just call them something different as time goes on.



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In summation: PR stunt is PR stunt. Moving on...

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Michelle Obama is a scary lady if she wants to be and I'm pretty sure it's not really about getting something done anyway. It's about "increasing awareness." She'll probably sit down and have a chat IF either party even agrees. And they'll televise some small portion of that meeting where it seems like they're "really getting to the heart of the issue." Then nothing will change bc you can't get rid of bullies, bigots, criminals, etc or anyone you disagree with. They're simply always going to exist... You might just call them something different as time goes on.
I agree. Although I do think it was smart of her to do it, IF the intent was to get people talking about it. Yeah it's a PR stunt but it's got a guitar forum discussing it and many others around the world, so the bullying topic hasn't been swept under the rug. Not saying she did it for that reason but if she did, smart move.
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cause that would have been just as effective
Of course not, but at least we know it wouldn't be wasting the presidents time and it wouldn't carry such a high degree of arrogance


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Countless times I've seen the parents of problem children and it starts to make sense. Idiocy breeds idiocy.
Seriously! I was at a park one time and this little kid, couldn't have been older than 4-5, started flipping me and others off and saying things like, ".... you asshole" for no reason at all. I thought it was funny but I went and informed his grandma because that was all that was there. Her response..."his mom isn't very strict. It isn't his fault she just isn't good at parenting." Then it hit me, the grandma obviously was a horrible parent, and leading by example as most parents do, turned her daughter into a horrible parent...the cycle will continue forever in that family
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She's going to bat for this because she was requested to by the friends and family of a young gay high school kid, Jamey Rodemeyer, who committed suicide.

This hasn't been noted by many of the posts.



While I'm not sure government can do anything about bullying, her intentions may be heartfelt or a PR stunt, but to ignore this kid and his family would've been a bad move on her part, so I don't think she's crazy.

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her intentions may be heartfelt or a PR stunt, but to ignore this kid and his family would've been a bad move on her part, so I don't think she's crazy.
While your sentiments might be hearfelt or a PR stunt I still say she's crazy!

All joking aside, what would this world be like if every time a drunk driver killed someone, a kid committed suicide over being bullied, a person was beaten into a coma over their skin color, a person was killed for liking a certain type of music, a person got shot from a stray bullet during a gang shootout, a woman was raped, etc etc etc etc someone went to the president or got lawyers and politicians involved?

This is the way the world is going. Personally, I think the family's help and input could've probably helped the kid to rid himself of the idea of suicide. Not blaming them, I don't do the blame game. Problem is EVERYONE else plays the blame game and it always seems the parents are 100% faultless in this kind of circumstance.


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Late to the party here. And she's hoping to accomplish what by doing this?



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