Problem with 2 new Dimarzios...

GuitarDreamer131 · 01-23-2006, 12:23 AM

Hey guys,

Upon recommendation from the members of this forum, I went ahead and purchased the Dimarzio Air Norton and Blaze Bridge for my Cort Viva 7-string.
I had them installed by my usual tech, the same guy I had put in my pickups in my 6-string Ibanez.

The first thing I noticed when I started playing with the new pups was that compared to my 6-string, it has less distortion. The sound is much clearer than the the stock pups, but there is a definite loss in distortion compared to my other guitar, which also has an air norton in the neck. I A/Bed both over a few days and with 2 different amps, (just to make sure I wasn't crazy) and came to the same result over and over: there is less distortion when I plug my 7 string in then when I plug in my Ibanez. With the volume on my guitar on 10, it makes it sound like my full amount of distortion is like a mild overdrive.

Also, the sound is very thin, and there's no "chunk" to the bottom end, like very little bass whatsoever. There is no richness to the sound like my other guitar. It just doesn't sound right. This isn't what I would expect when putting in new pickups. I feel like I'm not getting everything they have, if that makes sense.

Do you guys have any idea why this might be? If you need pictures of wiring, or of the guitar, let me know.

If you guys could help me out in any way, it would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Mike

Shannon · 01-23-2006, 12:42 AM

They are most likely wired up wrong.

Leon · 01-23-2006, 12:44 AM

hmm... what were the stock pickups?

a picture of the wiring wouldn't hurt

GuitarDreamer131 · 01-23-2006, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon

hmm... what were the stock pickups?

a picture of the wiring wouldn't hurt

Hehe, thanks for the replies. I'll take some pictures for ya first thing tomorrow.

Mike

7StringofAblicK · 01-23-2006, 10:25 AM

That, and the setup is EVERYTHING (IMO). If the strings are way high and the pickups real low...the tone will be flubby and the gain will be weak. Try adjusting pickup height and the action (unless it's alright).

If that doesn't work, it may be wired wrong as stated above.

Not to mention picking technique (don't worry, no bashing here).

Elysian · 01-23-2006, 12:20 PM

my blaze bridge in my universe sounded like crap until i rewired it in serial... i hated the sound of it in parallel, very weak... i still don't prefer its scooped mids tone though...

Chris · 01-23-2006, 12:23 PM

What's the difference between serial and parallel wiring?

Hint, poke, workbench, poke, hint

Elysian · 01-23-2006, 12:46 PM

serial gives hotter output than parallel... there might be slight differences but thats the main one... this is the best way i can explain serial and parallel from a wiring point of view... my l33t pbrush skills... pretend the light bulbs are coils and thats what it means with pickups...

Andyalex · 01-23-2006, 01:18 PM

Those bulbs arent quite right..

The second picture is well Short-circuited..

nitelightboy · 01-23-2006, 01:22 PM

^ HAHA!! Series has a fuller more humbucker sound, since that's usually how humbuckers are wired. Parallel is more of a single coil with hum cancelling sound. I have Ibanez 7321's and a 7621 which all have the "special" 5-way switch. Positions 1,3,5 are all series and 2 and 4 are parallel. I use 2,4 for clean tones and the rest for my gainy stuff.

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01-23-2006, 12:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
GuitarDreamer131 ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 24 Thanked: 0	Problem with 2 new Dimarzios... Hey guys, Upon recommendation from the members of this forum, I went ahead and purchased the Dimarzio Air Norton and Blaze Bridge for my Cort Viva 7-string. I had them installed by my usual tech, the same guy I had put in my pickups in my 6-string Ibanez. The first thing I noticed when I started playing with the new pups was that compared to my 6-string, it has less distortion. The sound is much clearer than the the stock pups, but there is a definite loss in distortion compared to my other guitar, which also has an air norton in the neck. I A/Bed both over a few days and with 2 different amps, (just to make sure I wasn't crazy) and came to the same result over and over: there is less distortion when I plug my 7 string in then when I plug in my Ibanez. With the volume on my guitar on 10, it makes it sound like my full amount of distortion is like a mild overdrive. Also, the sound is very thin, and there's no "chunk" to the bottom end, like very little bass whatsoever. There is no richness to the sound like my other guitar. It just doesn't sound right. This isn't what I would expect when putting in new pickups. I feel like I'm not getting everything they have, if that makes sense. Do you guys have any idea why this might be? If you need pictures of wiring, or of the guitar, let me know. If you guys could help me out in any way, it would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Mike

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Shannon Lovely Dita... • Super Moderator • Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: W. Seattle, WA Posts: 10,303 Real Name: Shannon Main Seven: Ibanez UV7PWH Rig: Digitech GSP1101 Thanked: 91	They are most likely wired up wrong. O.S.D.O. : The Smoking Lounge : Jar Of Flies : Your personal hero!

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Leon {##[====:::. • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Ohio Crew Posts: 12,458 Main Seven: RG7620 of Doom Rig: Mesa / Sovtek Thanked: 81	hmm... what were the stock pickups? a picture of the wiring wouldn't hurt I have a radical idea. The door swings both ways, we could reverse the particle flow through the gate. We'll cross the streams.

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7StringofAblicK Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,730 Real Name: Eric Rose Main Seven: Carvin/Hellraiser 7 Rig: VHT Pittbull 100/CL Thanked: 18	That, and the setup is EVERYTHING (IMO). If the strings are way high and the pickups real low...the tone will be flubby and the gain will be weak. Try adjusting pickup height and the action (unless it's alright). If that doesn't work, it may be wired wrong as stated above. Not to mention picking technique (don't worry, no bashing here).

01-23-2006, 12:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
Elysian ss.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 3,751 Real Name: Adam Main Seven: Elysian Custom Guitars Thanked: 15	my blaze bridge in my universe sounded like crap until i rewired it in serial... i hated the sound of it in parallel, very weak... i still don't prefer its scooped mids tone though...

01-23-2006, 12:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
Elysian ss.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 3,751 Real Name: Adam Main Seven: Elysian Custom Guitars Thanked: 15	serial gives hotter output than parallel... there might be slight differences but thats the main one... this is the best way i can explain serial and parallel from a wiring point of view... my l33t pbrush skills... pretend the light bulbs are coils and thats what it means with pickups...

01-23-2006, 01:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
Andyalex 7string n00b Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 5 Main Seven: Washburn WG587 Thanked: 0	Those bulbs arent quite right.. The second picture is well Short-circuited..

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nitelightboy I poop in shoes. Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ft Liquordale, FL Posts: 4,282 Real Name: Joe Main Seven: LTD SC-607 Rig: Madison Divinity Thanked: 18	^ HAHA!! Series has a fuller more humbucker sound, since that's usually how humbuckers are wired. Parallel is more of a single coil with hum cancelling sound. I have Ibanez 7321's and a 7621 which all have the "special" 5-way switch. Positions 1,3,5 are all series and 2 and 4 are parallel. I use 2,4 for clean tones and the rest for my gainy stuff.

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