[sakeido]

Originally Posted by TheMissing

Wow, you really think so? Interesting.

Well.. dynamics wise they are more "organic" just owing to them being passive instead of active. But a tone that hot, bright and compressed, to me, is less organic than the Blackout's mellower sound. When it really comes down to it, I don't like using "organic" to describe pickups.. I'd prefer nuanced. So then, Lundgrens have more nuances than Blackouts, but will peel the skin off your face in the way only a Lundgren can.

[TheMissing]

Originally Posted by sakeido

Well.. dynamics wise they are more "organic" just owing to them being passive instead of active. But a tone that hot, bright and compressed, to me, is less organic than the Blackout's mellower sound. When it really comes down to it, I don't like using "organic" to describe pickups.. I'd prefer nuanced. So then, Lundgrens have more nuances than Blackouts, but will peel the skin off your face in the way only a Lundgren can.

I see what your saying.

Lundgrens are pretty unfogiving in their attitude. And yes, they indeed peel skin off of faces.

[awesomeaustin]

I was also wondering about SD passives like the Invader 7 and others like th JB7 and Sh-6 7.

I have 2 Invader 6's. And I like them alot, but are they the same as the 7 string version? I know some say Dimarzios vary from 6 pup to 7 pups. Is is the same with SD?

ANy thoughts?!

[MerlinTKD]

Don't go JB7, what you have now is the Duncan Designed version of the JB/Jazz combo (I have the same guitar ). Even with a higher quality version, the JB is just going to be too loose and boomy on the low end, in basswood.

If you're looking at passives for basswood, I'd look at Dimarzio; they seem to be tighter all-around... I'm planning on using some tax rebate cash to *crosses fingers* score a used pair of Blazes for mine.

On the other hand, Duncan makes great pickups; to my ear (based on the clips at the Duncan site) the Custom sounds tightest in the bass - interestingly, of the JB/Custom/Distortion/Invader, it's the lowest output, which might actually have something to do with it.

I love the JB and Distortion in mahogany, and the Invader in alder, but I honestly haven't heard other combinations. Correction - Noodles used a Custom on the Division recording, yes? So there's Custom in mahogany.

Whatever you decide, once you get them put in, post some clips!

[ibznorange]

the thing with basswood, is that it has a large lowend, but otherwise a flat response. It really requires the extreme focused punch of dimarzios to make it sound good.

[MerlinTKD]

Originally Posted by ibznorange

the thing with basswood, is that it has a large lowend, but otherwise a flat response. It really requires the extreme focused punch of dimarzios to make it sound good.

That's the theory I'm going on. Of course, given that, I'd think Blackouts would sound pretty good, too? Personally not much of a fan of active pickups (Devin Townsend's tone is an exception ) but from the SD sound clips, I'd think they'd match up pretty well.

[7 Dying Trees]

If you are thinking of lundgrens and can afford them, then I'd seriously advise looking at bareknuckles. Nothing describes how good those puppies sound, they are truly amazing, plus clean they just sound sweet as, then through distortion they rip. Awesome stuff!

[Brord]

Originally Posted by 7 Dying Trees

If you are thinking of lundgrens and can afford them, then I'd seriously advise looking at bareknuckles. Nothing describes how good those puppies sound, they are truly amazing, plus clean they just sound sweet as, then through distortion they rip. Awesome stuff!

Aren't the Lundgrens tighter and clearer than the bareknuckles?

The only time I heard bareknuckles was when I saw Chris Broderick with Nevermore and I personally didn't like his sound one bit. Way to scratchy and gritty sounding, to much gain also.

To bad I never had the chance to either hear the Lundgren m7, blackout or bareknuckle in person or in a good comparison clip. That would really help a lot.

[sakeido]

Coming from a guy who has had a Lundgren and a Bareknuckle Nailbomb in the same guitar.. the BK is clearer, crisper, more articulate, less compressed, and has more mids than the Lundgren. It also cost like $140 less. As far as passives go, between the BKP in my S7320 and the one in my Charvel, I will never buy another brand of passive again. BK all the way.

[TheMissing]

Originally Posted by Brord

Aren't the Lundgrens tighter and clearer than the bareknuckles?

It depends on the model, so yes, and no.

The only time I heard bareknuckles was when I saw Chris Broderick with Nevermore and I personally didn't like his sound one bit. Way to scratchy and gritty sounding, to much gain also.

That was probably micing issues. And as for gain, most Bareknuckles have less output than the M7, which is never a bad thing, even in high gain situations (which adds to clarity).

To bad I never had the chance to either hear the Lundgren m7, blackout or bareknuckle in person or in a good comparison clip. That would really help a lot.

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Listen to the song "In Spite" That was recorded with my Gryphon-7 with an M7. The tone is a bit different than most M7 clips which are usually all djent.

Once I get my BKP Nailbomb wired up i'll make a comparison clip using the same presets and everything.