Dumb question about Kahlers

Neal · 04-09-2008, 11:39 PM

I'm gonna be putting together a guitar in the near future and I'm pretty sure I want a Kahler on it. I've played a couple guitars with Kahlers on them in the past and thought they were pretty nice.

I'm just wondering if you can do this one stupid trick on 'em like you can with a Floyd style trem, you know the one where you hit a hamonic and then either flick the bar just right or depress it and slide your hand off the end of it so the bridge slaps back into position and it makes this chirping sound like brbrbrbrbrbr. If that makes any sense and if anybody knows if this works on a Kahler or not, let me know.

Thanks

TemjinStrife · 04-09-2008, 11:55 PM

You can't. Kahlers do not "Flutter."

Somewhere on YouTube a guy does a pretty comprehensive three-part comparison between Floyds and Kahlers... I'd recommend watching it.

Neal · 04-10-2008, 12:08 AM

cool. thanx.

Well, not so cool really. I was hoping they would do that.

darren · 04-10-2008, 02:25 AM

Not entirely true.

Any floating trem will flutter. Just nothing flutters quite like a dialed-in Floyd.

Edroz · 04-10-2008, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darren

Not entirely true.

Any floating trem will flutter. Just nothing flutters quite like a dialed-in Floyd.

the flutter effect is WAY more subtle on a Kahler, but it is there.

Cancer · 04-10-2008, 03:29 AM

^ Yeah, its more of a "vibrate", as opposed to a "flutter".

HamBungler · 04-10-2008, 06:51 AM

Yeah, Kahler's can flutter but the way its designed its not as dramatic as a Floyd. I still prefer Kahlers because of their smoother feel.

ibznorange · 04-10-2008, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HamBungler

Yeah, Kahler's can flutter but the way its designed its not as dramatic as a Floyd. I still prefer Kahlers because of their smoother feel.

i stick by my arguement that the ZR is the best of both worlds. flutters and just feels like a floyd, but smooth like a kahler

YYZ2112 · 04-10-2008, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibznorange

i stick by my arguement that the ZR is the best of both worlds. flutters and just feels like a floyd, but smooth like a kahler

I need to try the ZR. I never liked Kahlers but it's been a long time since playing on one.

Neal · 04-10-2008, 06:14 PM

Thanks for the input everyone.

I'd really like to put a Kahler on a guitar because they feel so much more solid when palm muting and there seems to be less twang. The flutter thing isn't a huge deal but it's pretty much written into one of my leads so that sucks if I build a guitar and I can't do that anymore.

Is there a 7 string ZR?

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04-09-2008, 11:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
Neal ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: shredville Posts: 155 Main Seven: Ibanez RG 7620 Rig: Mesa Road King / JSX Thanked: 2	Dumb question about Kahlers I'm gonna be putting together a guitar in the near future and I'm pretty sure I want a Kahler on it. I've played a couple guitars with Kahlers on them in the past and thought they were pretty nice. I'm just wondering if you can do this one stupid trick on 'em like you can with a Floyd style trem, you know the one where you hit a hamonic and then either flick the bar just right or depress it and slide your hand off the end of it so the bridge slaps back into position and it makes this chirping sound like brbrbrbrbrbr. If that makes any sense and if anybody knows if this works on a Kahler or not, let me know. Thanks

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darren Mr. Negative Pants™ Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Greater Toronto Area, Canada Posts: 7,037 Main Seven: OMFG! EBMM JP7 Rig: GT6PowerBlockThiele Thanked: 31	Not entirely true. Any floating trem will flutter. Just nothing flutters quite like a dialed-in Floyd. This space intentionally left blank.

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TemjinStrife Power Metal Cellist Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vermont Posts: 677 Real Name: Josh Main Seven: Dean EVO 7 Special Rig: PODXT Thanked: 8	You can't. Kahlers do not "Flutter." Somewhere on YouTube a guy does a pretty comprehensive three-part comparison between Floyds and Kahlers... I'd recommend watching it.

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Neal ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: shredville Posts: 155 Main Seven: Ibanez RG 7620 Rig: Mesa Road King / JSX Thanked: 2	cool. thanx. Well, not so cool really. I was hoping they would do that.

04-10-2008, 06:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
Neal ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: shredville Posts: 155 Main Seven: Ibanez RG 7620 Rig: Mesa Road King / JSX Thanked: 2	Thanks for the input everyone. I'd really like to put a Kahler on a guitar because they feel so much more solid when palm muting and there seems to be less twang. The flutter thing isn't a huge deal but it's pretty much written into one of my leads so that sucks if I build a guitar and I can't do that anymore. Is there a 7 string ZR?

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