[jackson_metal_head]

Hi there.

basically i have nearly got enough cash togethor again after i bought my beloved rg7421 to get a 707 in the bridge.

i know the obvious sound difference it will make to the low end and overall harmonics but how much difference will i see in output? at the moment im not really satisfied with how "saturated" my tone is, it seems to be lacking in that department as i still have the stock ibby p'ups.

will the 707s make a significant difference to how saturated my tone it?

cheers.

[TimSE]

a 707 will totally blow ibby stock pickups away in a second! both in tone and output.
They are higher output and chances are ul want a higher output neck pickup and another 707 would be awesome with it. or maybe a 81-7

707 will be pure win basically

i would get 707s without a second thought. im planning the exact same thing for my ibby (2 707s to replace the stock pups)

EDIT: you could think about the SD blackouts - the stanard size ones. Wont have to do any routing then. altho they are a more all-balls-out-metal pickup id say
a slightly more "scooped" eq sound to em
but only just

[djpharoah]

Originally Posted by TimSE

a 707 will totally blow ibby stock pickups away in a second! both in tone and output.
They are higher output and chances are ul want a higher output neck pickup and another 707 would be awesome with it. or maybe a 81-7

707 will be pure win basically

i would get 707s without a second thought. im planning the exact same thing for my ibby (2 707s to replace the stock pups)

EDIT: you could think about the SD blackouts - the stanard size ones. Wont have to do any routing then. altho they are a more all-balls-out-metal pickup id same
a slightly more "scooped" eq sound to em
but only just

I totally agreewith what you said about EMGs. I love mine. You can get the blackouts but then you HAVE to route the pickup cavities for depth as the blackouts are really tall and the ibanez cavities are really shallow.

[jackson_metal_head]

routing is not a problem, as long as i order the p'ups through my luthier friend he will route for free.

i just want the tightness and saturation that people say the 707s will give.

[TimSE]

707s then i think

[ibznorange]

a slight issue nobody noticed. Its going to be complicated getting a neck passive and a bridge active to work together. if youre only going to replace the bridge, for all intents and purposes, youd be best off leaving the neck pickup disconnected. just something to think about when switching one pickup to an active.
its much easier on guitars with lp type controls

[TimSE]

hmmm thats a very VERY good point ^^^
personaly i recon ud be better off gettin 2 707s
to hell with stock ibby pups anyday

thatd be my plan

[jackson_metal_head]

Yeah, my neck pickup is not working all that well anyway so i will quite happily rip it out.
i dont quite feel like spending nearly the amount i payed for the guitar on two pickups yet so i think ill stick to just the bridge 707!

[Jan]

I kept the stock neck pickup in my RG7421XL when I changed the bridge pup for an EMG 707 and learned I might have as well ripped it out - with the EMGs high output, the neck pup is soooo much quieter it's practically COMPLETELY USELESS in live situations because of the HUGE difference in volume. The only thing I could find it useful for was brightening up the bridge pup a notch (which happened when I was using both pups simultaneously). But the difference was HARDLY noticeable... So it's no use really going all the trouble to wire the 2 pups together IMO.

[thedonutman]

Originally Posted by jackson_metal_head

routing is not a problem, as long as i order the p'ups through my luthier friend he will route for free.

i just want the tightness and saturation that people say the 707s will give.

Try revalving your Ashdown, and/or running an overdrive into it. The stock tubes (maybe in combination with the amp design) seem to lack the gain for a fully "saturated" sound.