A new and different Blackout question!

soldierkahn · 03-27-2008, 05:20 PM

i was wondering. When EMG made the 707, they made it around the EQ of basswood for its great sound. And i know how most of Seymour Duncans pups are created with Mahogany's EQ in mind, so heres my question.

Were the Duncan Blackouts eq'd around Basswood's tone or Mahogany's Tone?

zimbloth · 03-27-2008, 05:24 PM

Neither. They were designed after the EMG85 and given a little more attack to help with low B clarity. It was not a ground-up thing in regards to the voicing.

I can tell you from a lot of Blackout experience that the Blackout bridge model definitely sounds best in mahogany. I find the neck model in the bridge sounds best in basswood, but the bridge model works too. It depends on your rig as always.

soldierkahn · 03-27-2008, 05:28 PM

well i can definitely get GREAT tone out of my lil ghetto combo setup (with an extra slaved 12" celestion) so i know my amp has the ability to create the tones i love, my only question is like, for my 8527 (mahogany body, maple top) , the 707 is an overload in it, and the 81-7 is a lot more clear and articulate than the 817 in the bridge, but it doesnt have the low end i want either.

so what i wanted to try was the Bridge model BO, but didnt want it to be as weak as the 817 or as powerful as the 707. Im a MASSIVE fan of the Basswood 707 wood/pup combo tonewise, but am still left wanting with my Mahog/Maple 7.....

any ideas Nick?

ibznorange · 03-27-2008, 05:32 PM

its hotter than the 81, thats for sure

soldierkahn · 03-27-2008, 05:39 PM

my guess is that they would prolly sound as good as the 707s just without all the hi-mid hiss associated with EMGs and High gain.....

i dont know....i think im gonna buy just the bridge model soon and try it out. If i dont like it, i can always return it or sell it on here, seeing as how all id have to do is drop it in and attach the quick connect cable already there...

ibznorange · 03-27-2008, 05:41 PM

I might have one to sell you

soldierkahn · 03-27-2008, 05:50 PM

ill be getting the Phase II model since im already routed for the EMGs.... ntm i like the look of those better than the passive sized ones

ibznorange · 03-27-2008, 05:58 PM

ditto. i just wish they werent so fucking huge

soldierkahn · 03-27-2008, 06:30 PM

lol, i think thats what attracts me so much about them (the EMG sized extended housings).....they add a nice weight to the guitar, are tonally sound and just look professional as hell

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03-27-2008, 05:24 PM	#2
zimbloth Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 11,253 Real Name: Nick Main Seven: Rico Jr Customs Main ERG: Ibanez 8 Rig: VHT Pittbull UL Thanked: 67	Neither. They were designed after the EMG85 and given a little more attack to help with low B clarity. It was not a ground-up thing in regards to the voicing. I can tell you from a lot of Blackout experience that the Blackout bridge model definitely sounds best in mahogany. I find the neck model in the bridge sounds best in basswood, but the bridge model works too. It depends on your rig as always.

03-27-2008, 05:28 PM	#3
soldierkahn XL Club VIP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,251 Real Name: Kahn Main Seven: Ibz RG1077XL / EMGs Main ERG: Ibz RG1077XL / EMGs Rig: L6 Spider 3/ISP Dec Thanked: 17 $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	well i can definitely get GREAT tone out of my lil ghetto combo setup (with an extra slaved 12" celestion) so i know my amp has the ability to create the tones i love, my only question is like, for my 8527 (mahogany body, maple top) , the 707 is an overload in it, and the 81-7 is a lot more clear and articulate than the 817 in the bridge, but it doesnt have the low end i want either. so what i wanted to try was the Bridge model BO, but didnt want it to be as weak as the 817 or as powerful as the 707. Im a MASSIVE fan of the Basswood 707 wood/pup combo tonewise, but am still left wanting with my Mahog/Maple 7..... any ideas Nick?

03-27-2008, 05:39 PM	#5
soldierkahn XL Club VIP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,251 Real Name: Kahn Main Seven: Ibz RG1077XL / EMGs Main ERG: Ibz RG1077XL / EMGs Rig: L6 Spider 3/ISP Dec Thanked: 17 $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	my guess is that they would prolly sound as good as the 707s just without all the hi-mid hiss associated with EMGs and High gain..... i dont know....i think im gonna buy just the bridge model soon and try it out. If i dont like it, i can always return it or sell it on here, seeing as how all id have to do is drop it in and attach the quick connect cable already there...

03-27-2008, 05:41 PM	#6
ibznorange Chief Officer/RHLC © Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 7,968 Real Name: Max Main Seven: Dean Vendetta 1.7 Rig: None Thanked: 54	I might have one to sell you

03-27-2008, 05:50 PM	#7
soldierkahn XL Club VIP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,251 Real Name: Kahn Main Seven: Ibz RG1077XL / EMGs Main ERG: Ibz RG1077XL / EMGs Rig: L6 Spider 3/ISP Dec Thanked: 17 $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	ill be getting the Phase II model since im already routed for the EMGs.... ntm i like the look of those better than the passive sized ones

03-27-2008, 05:58 PM	#8
ibznorange Chief Officer/RHLC © Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 7,968 Real Name: Max Main Seven: Dean Vendetta 1.7 Rig: None Thanked: 54	ditto. i just wish they werent so fucking huge

03-27-2008, 06:30 PM	#9
soldierkahn XL Club VIP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,251 Real Name: Kahn Main Seven: Ibz RG1077XL / EMGs Main ERG: Ibz RG1077XL / EMGs Rig: L6 Spider 3/ISP Dec Thanked: 17 $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	lol, i think thats what attracts me so much about them (the EMG sized extended housings).....they add a nice weight to the guitar, are tonally sound and just look professional as hell


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