Frett Buzz / Setup

forelander · 03-23-2008, 10:47 PM

So I did a bit of work on my S7 recently to get blackouts in. I had the neck off the body, polished the frets with 000 steel wool, routed the body, got the electronics in, put the neck back on, and strung it up with heavier strings (10-52 + 60). I knew I'd have to set it up again - trem and truss rod adjustment and intonation was all I was anticipating, however now we hit a problem.

There's fucking ridiculous fret buzz pretty much the whole way up the neck, on all strings, but ridiculously bad on the B. The relief is good, there's a small gap at the 7th fret when holding the 1st and last fret, and I've had the action stupidly high and still get the same problem. I'm wondering if I should take the neck off and redo it, as I'd never done that before and am wondering if I've done it wrong, as there was never any buzz before save a touch on the first fret or two on the b. Is it possible the necks been put on incorrectly and is causing ridiculous buzzing that nothing else is fixing, or is there anything else you can see that I've done in the process that could cause this?

supertruper1988 · 03-23-2008, 11:36 PM

you just need a little more relief in the neck

forelander · 03-24-2008, 12:26 AM

Already tried that, didn't work, even with a very large amount of relief I was still getting buzz.

newamerikangospel · 03-24-2008, 12:46 AM

It might not be the neck? Trem, nuts, straplocks? Im not an "ibbyhead" or whatever, but if you have the little bar (for the string angle) on your guitar, and it is loose, it may be vibrating because of the larger freq wave coming from the B. Dont just try to blindly fix it, find it. It may something like the 24th fret has popped out a bit.

Does it rattle on the open string, even though the string is not coming into contact with anything but nut and saddle? Then it is not *fret* buzz, if its not coming from the frets. Could the pickup be touching the string?

ibznorange · 03-24-2008, 12:57 AM

the pickups might be rattling too. I had that problem really bad in my RGT, finally realized the neck pickup was vibrating and making noise

forelander · 03-24-2008, 03:07 AM

I've knocked on the guitar a bunch of times and haven't heard any vibrations or rattling so I'm fairly sure it's the frets.

Any ideas or info as to how to properly put a neck on and if I could've gone wrong?

FortePenance · 03-24-2008, 03:42 AM

Did you put any shims in or anything?

ibznorange · 03-24-2008, 03:54 AM

simon has a point.
also, you cant hear it on my carvin when you knock, but its buzzin somewhere, and its not the frets

forelander · 03-24-2008, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FortePenance

Did you put any shims in or anything?

Nope, no shims, had none before either and no buzz with lower action and lighter strings.

Stitch · 03-24-2008, 08:35 AM

try raising the bridge and shimming the neck approprioately - everything might have just been unsettled during your deconstruction

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03-23-2008, 10:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
forelander you fail me Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 807 Main Seven: S7420FM Rig: 6505+ half stack Thanked: 9	Frett Buzz / Setup So I did a bit of work on my S7 recently to get blackouts in. I had the neck off the body, polished the frets with 000 steel wool, routed the body, got the electronics in, put the neck back on, and strung it up with heavier strings (10-52 + 60). I knew I'd have to set it up again - trem and truss rod adjustment and intonation was all I was anticipating, however now we hit a problem. There's fucking ridiculous fret buzz pretty much the whole way up the neck, on all strings, but ridiculously bad on the B. The relief is good, there's a small gap at the 7th fret when holding the 1st and last fret, and I've had the action stupidly high and still get the same problem. I'm wondering if I should take the neck off and redo it, as I'd never done that before and am wondering if I've done it wrong, as there was never any buzz before save a touch on the first fret or two on the b. Is it possible the necks been put on incorrectly and is causing ridiculous buzzing that nothing else is fixing, or is there anything else you can see that I've done in the process that could cause this? Jetzt liegst du hier, ganz regungslos, in meinem hand und meinem schoß, du bist so kalt...

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03-23-2008, 11:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
supertruper1988 ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Valley of the Sun, AZ Posts: 533 Real Name: Cameron Main Seven: '98 RG7620 Royal Blue Rig: Peavey Valveking 212 Thanked: 15	you just need a little more relief in the neck

03-24-2008, 12:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
forelander you fail me Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 807 Main Seven: S7420FM Rig: 6505+ half stack Thanked: 9	Already tried that, didn't work, even with a very large amount of relief I was still getting buzz.

03-24-2008, 12:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
newamerikangospel HA HA!...Avatar! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,172 Real Name: lepsognakiremaw Main Seven: Schecter Gryphon Rig: GNX>H&K4x12-Hrtk2x15 Thanked: 13	It might not be the neck? Trem, nuts, straplocks? Im not an "ibbyhead" or whatever, but if you have the little bar (for the string angle) on your guitar, and it is loose, it may be vibrating because of the larger freq wave coming from the B. Dont just try to blindly fix it, find it. It may something like the 24th fret has popped out a bit. Does it rattle on the open string, even though the string is not coming into contact with anything but nut and saddle? Then it is not fret buzz, if its not coming from the frets. Could the pickup be touching the string?

03-24-2008, 03:07 AM	#6 (permalink)
forelander you fail me Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 807 Main Seven: S7420FM Rig: 6505+ half stack Thanked: 9	I've knocked on the guitar a bunch of times and haven't heard any vibrations or rattling so I'm fairly sure it's the frets. Any ideas or info as to how to properly put a neck on and if I could've gone wrong?

03-24-2008, 03:42 AM	#7 (permalink)
FortePenance Thats what she said! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 3,165 Real Name: Simon Main Seven: Xiphos soon Thanked: 19	Did you put any shims in or anything?

03-24-2008, 03:54 AM	#8 (permalink)
ibznorange Chief Officer/RHLC © Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: AZ Posts: 7,358 Real Name: Max Main Seven: Ir now Sevenless :squint: Main ERG: A Dead Cat Rig: Mesa Rectoverb Combo Thanked: 43	simon has a point. also, you cant hear it on my carvin when you knock, but its buzzin somewhere, and its not the frets

03-24-2008, 08:35 AM	#10 (permalink)
Stitch Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 6,768 Real Name: Simon Main Seven: Ibanez RG7420 & S7420FMTW Main ERG: Orion OG8 Rig: Peavey 6505 Thanked: 107	try raising the bridge and shimming the neck approprioately - everything might have just been unsettled during your deconstruction


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