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ss.org Regular
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Nottingham, UK
Posts: 34
Main Seven: RG2077XL
Rig: Marshal AVT50
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Moving neck forward
Ok I'd like some opinions on doing this.
Due to using an 80 gauge as my low string on my guitar the string saddle on the bridge has a tendancy to pop up due to being set right back to get intonation right. The easiest solution I can see to this problem is trying to move the neck forward slightly, drilling new holes into it, admittedly there isn't a lot of space to make this sort of adjustment with, would it be worth a shot or am I likely just to end up screwing my guitar up totally? |
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hates holidays
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Location: A Technological Deadzone
Posts: 9,659
Real Name: Mike
Main Seven: Schecter C7 Blackjack
Main ERG: I haven't felt the need..
Rig: AxeFx>50/50>Vader
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I wouldn't recommend doing that....
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grumpy old man
![]() Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Virginia, USA
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Main Seven: Ibanez LACS RG7
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what kind of bridge? if it's a flat hardtail with a spring around the intonation screw, and the spring is all squashed solid because you've got the saddle all the way back, an old Strat-player's trick is to cut the spring in half and only use half of it. that gives you more room to pull the saddle back. you can also saw a little bit off the intonation screw if it is sticking into the saddle too much. _actual time_ : prog/math/metal/???? on myspace |
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Sarcy English Twat
![]() Join Date: May 2004
Location: 7th Ethereal Plane of interstellar hell, Innit Bruv, Safe, London, UK
Posts: 6,928
Real Name: James
Main Seven: UV7PWH / UV7BK / RG2027
Main ERG: 10 fingers of metal death
Rig: VHT UL->Orange 4x12
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Jeez! What tuning are you using and on what scale? Which guitar? if it's the XL then that's bizarre as you should be able to get away with lighter strings unless you are tuning down to round F~ or so, but even then... Which hole is the saddle mounted on? If it's an edge you should have two.
Also, how high is your action, if it's quite high then I can see there being issues with intonation? Adjusting the neck like that would really not give you much benefit, you'd have to fill the holes in the neck from the mounting screws, and then redrill, plus you'd have a gap. Is it tension that requires the .80? |
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Senior Member
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Location: Irvine, CA
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Real Name: Mesh
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Don't do anything to the neck man. It will totally destroy its playability especially on a beauty like the 2077XL. What are ou tuning to that requires an 0.80 on a baritone scale guitar??
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ss.org Regular
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Nottingham, UK
Posts: 34
Main Seven: RG2077XL
Rig: Marshal AVT50
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Yes this is on the 2077XL. The saddle is already mounted on the rear hole for intonation. The action is set pretty low, had already thought of shimming the neck and raising the bridge a bit but gain even the 2mm extra length it wants for the saddle to be held in place i'd have to set the angle pretty large.
Well it's only tuned to A standard currently, though am experimenting with things like drop F/C tuning with the tremol-no as well. I'm just a fairly heavy picker and i don't like the feel of lighter strings on the low end. |
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Dissident Aggressor
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Florida
Posts: 16,458
Real Name: Legion
Main Seven: Loomis, C7HR, Giannini 7
Rig: Mesa Rectoverb 50
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This sounds weird for me to say, but have you tried using a lighter string? I had a 1077XL (the only difference is that it had a LoPro) and i was able to get it to intonate fine in A standard with a .068.
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ss.org Regular
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Nottingham, UK
Posts: 34
Main Seven: RG2077XL
Rig: Marshal AVT50
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Yes I have used lighter strings before, but don't like them, lol. On the other hand my dad thinks we may be able to machine a longer bit to fit on the front of the saddle... After we've got half a dozen other things done and have set up the lathe, lol.
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Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
Posts: 7,231
Real Name: Simon
Main Seven: Ibanez RG7420 & S7420FMTW
Main ERG: Orion OG8
Rig: Peavey 6505
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You're absolutely nuts. An .080 at A? That/s an insane amount of tension for 27". How many springs are you using?
To be brutally honest dude, I'd tell you to buck up and learn to pick softer. ![]() You'd be mad to fuck with a 2077XL. |
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No More Mr. Nice Guy
![]() Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia
Posts: 7,719
Real Name: Michael
Main Seven: '97 UV7BK
Rig: ADA MP1 > Mesa 50/50
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I had the same problem with my UV. When my UV came, the intonation was set in the rear holes and was out for the tuning (E) I was using. I just eyeballed it to my 7620 (which was mostly set in the front holes) and then made the nessacary adjustments after that.
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