Blackouts - Routing/Install Thread

djpharoah · 03-11-2008, 09:11 AM

I guess I made this thread for all of us interested in getting blackouts which are the size of dimarzios/SDs. Basically if you can just post in here which guitar you have and how much routing/sanding you had to do to get them in and if there was anything you noticed or would advice against.

This can be a great resource so that all this info in consolidated in one thread and all one has to do is look in here to get the information for their guitar. Photos would also be killer

Dimensions below from Seymour Duncan.
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Confirmed List:
Blackouts - 6 String
BC Rich Jr. V Deluxe (replacing: EMG 81/85) - Drop in replacement. No routing req.

Passive Sized Blackouts 7 String
Bernie Rico Jr Vixen 7 (replacing: Duncan Invader) - Drop in replacement. No routing req.
Carvin DC727 - They fit perfect in depth. Minor routing required for the lower ear of route. Easier than routing for Dimarzios.
Ibanez RG7420 - Neck shim req. if you don't want to route. (Might hold for RG76xx/Rg74xx series)
Ibanez S7 - Route out pup route at least another 3 or 4 mm out the bottom, possibly more. OR you could shim the neck and raise the bridge
Schecter Blackjack C7 - Very tight routes. Have to dremel quite a bit of wood out to get them to fit.
Washburn WG587. - No problems fitting the pickup cavity but the mounting rings were way too tight so I had to shave off some plastic.

Regular EMG Sized Blackouts 7 String
Jackson COW 7 (replacing: EMG 707) - Drop in replacement. No routing req.

Ext789 · 03-11-2008, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djpharoah

I also had to widen the standard pick up route tabs to get them in.

Don't you mean you had to widen the route for the tabs? Its a little unclear what you mean.

djpharoah · 03-11-2008, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ext789

Don't you mean you had to widen the route for the tabs? Its a little unclear what you mean.

Oh - actually I didn't do anything - I dont have an rg7620. That was just an example. I don't know if you have to do that at all. But I guess what I meant was that the purpose of this thread is to take the apprehension out of getting the blackouts. I dont know - it sounded like a great idea this morning when i made this thread.

Zepp88 · 03-11-2008, 05:47 PM

The routes on the Blackjack are VERY tight. I had to dremel out a bit of wood so they would fit. The stock pickups in there were even difficult to get in and out.

djpharoah · 03-11-2008, 06:01 PM

Thanks Mike. Thats what I wanted to kinda have on here - a reference for people so that you know people get the blackouts and then realize they have quite a bit of routing to do. This is sort of a heads up.

frank falbo · 03-11-2008, 07:17 PM

On my Blackjack C7 it was tight, but I didn't have to route anything. They were also tight in the mounting ring, but they pushed right in.

st2012 · 03-11-2008, 07:52 PM

Kinda the same with my Washburn wg587. No problems fitting the pickup cavity but the mounting rings were way too tight so I had to shave off some plastic. Other than that they fit wonderfully.

Toshiro · 03-11-2008, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frank falbo

On my Blackjack C7 it was tight, but I didn't have to route anything. They were also tight in the mounting ring, but they pushed right in.

Maybe the newer C7s have longer routs? I had to file mine to get the Blackouts into my 06 Blackjack.

B Lopez · 03-11-2008, 08:54 PM

Blackouts in; Info inside.

forelander · 03-11-2008, 10:37 PM

How far is your neck pickup typically from the strings when fretted at the highest fret?

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03-11-2008, 09:11 AM	#1 (permalink)
djpharoah Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: OC/LA Posts: 4,010 Real Name: Mesh Main Seven: '06 1527 Prestige Rig: GMX212 + GNX3000 Thanked: 170	Blackouts - Routing/Install Thread I guess I made this thread for all of us interested in getting blackouts which are the size of dimarzios/SDs. Basically if you can just post in here which guitar you have and how much routing/sanding you had to do to get them in and if there was anything you noticed or would advice against. This can be a great resource so that all this info in consolidated in one thread and all one has to do is look in here to get the information for their guitar. Photos would also be killer Dimensions below from Seymour Duncan. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confirmed List: Blackouts - 6 String BC Rich Jr. V Deluxe (replacing: EMG 81/85) - Drop in replacement. No routing req. Passive Sized Blackouts 7 String Bernie Rico Jr Vixen 7 (replacing: Duncan Invader) - Drop in replacement. No routing req. Carvin DC727 - They fit perfect in depth. Minor routing required for the lower ear of route. Easier than routing for Dimarzios. Ibanez RG7420 - Neck shim req. if you don't want to route. (Might hold for RG76xx/Rg74xx series) Ibanez S7 - Route out pup route at least another 3 or 4 mm out the bottom, possibly more. OR you could shim the neck and raise the bridge Schecter Blackjack C7 - Very tight routes. Have to dremel quite a bit of wood out to get them to fit. Washburn WG587. - No problems fitting the pickup cavity but the mounting rings were way too tight so I had to shave off some plastic. Regular EMG Sized Blackouts 7 String Jackson COW 7 (replacing: EMG 707) - Drop in replacement. No routing req. Last edited by djpharoah; 03-20-2008 at 07:52 PM.

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03-11-2008, 06:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
djpharoah Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: OC/LA Posts: 4,010 Real Name: Mesh Main Seven: '06 1527 Prestige Rig: GMX212 + GNX3000 Thanked: 170	Thanks Mike. Thats what I wanted to kinda have on here - a reference for people so that you know people get the blackouts and then realize they have quite a bit of routing to do. This is sort of a heads up.

03-11-2008, 07:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
frank falbo ss.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 211 Main Seven: Custom Thanked: 9 / 1	On my Blackjack C7 it was tight, but I didn't have to route anything. They were also tight in the mounting ring, but they pushed right in.

03-11-2008, 07:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
st2012 ss.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 204 Real Name: Simon Main Seven: Washburn WG587 Rig: Peavey VK+Sd-1 Thanked: 5	Kinda the same with my Washburn wg587. No problems fitting the pickup cavity but the mounting rings were way too tight so I had to shave off some plastic. Other than that they fit wonderfully.

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