Blackouts - Routing/Install Thread

Toshiro · 03-11-2008, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forelander

How far is your neck pickup typically from the strings when fretted at the highest fret?

My BO is at about 2mm. Though I think I stripped the shit out of the adjustment screws, fucking plastic, have to get some nuts and JBWeld them onto the ears.

Chris · 03-11-2008, 11:03 PM

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zimbloth · 03-11-2008, 11:11 PM

I've installed Blackouts in the following guitars without the need for any extra work whatsoever:

Bernie Rico Jr Vixen 7 (replacing: Duncan Invader)
BC Rich Jr. V Deluxe (replacing: EMG 81/85)
Jackson COW (replacing: EMG 707)

noodles · 03-11-2008, 11:23 PM

Mesh, would it help if I measured a few KxKs, from the bottom of the route to the strings?

djpharoah · 03-12-2008, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zimbloth

I've installed Blackouts in the following guitars without the need for any extra work whatsoever:

Bernie Rico Jr Vixen 7 (replacing: Duncan Invader)
BC Rich Jr. V Deluxe (replacing: EMG 81/85)
Jackson COW (replacing: EMG 707)

Thanks a lot Nick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by noodles

Mesh, would it help if I measured a few KxKs, from the bottom of the route to the strings?

Sure - that would give more people an idea of what depth the routes are approx. on a KxK and kinda estimate what they might have to route out. Thanks Dave.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

* Chris approves of this thread, and sticks it.

Wow - my first sticky. Its cool - I am hoping to getting these pups from Nick in the future and just figured there must be a ton of guys woh must be wondering the same thing as me.

I have now updated the first Post to reflect the updated guitars. I will now post them under Passive sized (the main reason for this thread) and Regular sized.

forelander · 03-12-2008, 07:53 PM

Actually could someone tell me how far their pups are from the strings, unfretted, and fretted at the highest fret. Separate measurements for neck and bridge would be awesome.

I'm halfway to having them in an S7, and they fit the routes fine, except for depth. You're gonna have to route out at least another 3 or 4 mm out the bottom, possibly more. Right now I've taken about 3.5 mm out the whole route and a bit extra where the cable sits (I'll get better measurements when I work on it again). Depending on what people tell me about their heights, I may still need to take another mm off, though for that I think I'll just shim the neck. And unless you wanna shim the neck with a deck of cards, thats not really an option to get the pups in, in the first place.

Today I Routed my S7 for Blackouts...
That's the thread about my routing.

For people interested in S7 + Blackouts (or any pup for that matter)
That thread has info on the S7 route depths, but I'll restate here, the routes are a touch shy of 10mm deep. Blackouts are 20mm high. See an issue here?

A lack of wood between the bridge route and trem cavity has not yet been a problem, though it's getting closer and closer. Also keep in mind I've not used any power tools for any of my work (woulda been a fucking lot quicker and easier probably), nor hammers etc.

Hope that helps.

Zepp88 · 03-12-2008, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frank falbo

On my Blackjack C7 it was tight, but I didn't have to route anything. They were also tight in the mounting ring, but they pushed right in.

On mine I could barely get the stock pups back in after pulling them out

Really tight fit, the part that I dremeled was around the tabs.

djpharoah · 03-13-2008, 09:46 PM

Updated the original post with awesome pics of the blackouts and all their dimensions.

forelander · 03-13-2008, 09:59 PM

But not with all the info I posted on the S7?

djpharoah · 03-13-2008, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forelander

But not with all the info I posted on the S7?

Done.

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03-11-2008, 11:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
zimbloth Fear the Blackout! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 10,071 Real Name: Nick Main Seven: Rico Jr Customs Rig: VHT Pittbull UL Thanked: 47	I've installed Blackouts in the following guitars without the need for any extra work whatsoever: Bernie Rico Jr Vixen 7 (replacing: Duncan Invader) BC Rich Jr. V Deluxe (replacing: EMG 81/85) Jackson COW (replacing: EMG 707)

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