[HighGain510]

Originally Posted by noodles

Drilling through an OFR baseplate is no joke. They're machined out of case-hardened, billet steel stock. I wouldn't attempt it without a drill press and a tungstun crabide or titanium bit.

That's why they said they wouldn't sell it to random guys who wanted to pull a DIY job with inadequate tools and then freak out when they found out their little home power tools wouldn't cut it! I told them it was going on a guitar being built by a professional luthier and they gave me the OK.

[ibznorange]

im not seeing a yes or no anywhere on the site. are they only in black, or can you get chrome/gold ones too?

would a dremel work?













i dont think most people have worked with case hardened steel before, and thus dont realize quite what theyre getting in to. you know, at all?
Its times like this im REALLY happy my dad had a good shop going in the back yard. Who knows why he ever wanted steel machining bits and a hydraulic drillpress? he never used any of it once. thats a lot of money he dropped on that shit
but then, who knew id ever want/have a good use for it

[ibznorange]

Originally Posted by Stitch

Good luck finding an original Edge 7 though.

Ill buy it from you if you do. for WAY more than you paid. cause if you bought one, you bought it from someone who didnt know what they had, and sold it too cheap

[HighGain510]

Originally Posted by ibznorange

are they only in black, or can you get chrome/gold ones too?

They're not "black" like in a metal-painted-black sense. It's the same material as all their other graphite-esque products if you've seen those before. Basically not made of metal, so they're only coming in that "color" unless they determine otherwise and go for more of the L.R. Baggs-style piezo saddles where it just has the little piezo crystal inserted into a metal saddle.

[Stitch]

I'm interested to see how they avoid 'brushing' noise. the L.R Baggs system is fantastically simple and works a treat, but I fail to see how it could work in this system.

[technomancer]

Why would there be more 'brushing' noise with this than with the Baggs system? For all intents and purposes the piezo elements are in the same contact point, so neither would be more prone to this than the other

[The Dark Wolf]

Stitch is being cantankerous. Kinda like Ibanez/Schecter.

I'm sure the design works equally well.

[Stitch]

Originally Posted by technomancer

Why would there be more 'brushing' noise with this than with the Baggs system? For all intents and purposes the piezo elements are in the same contact point, so neither would be more prone to this than the other

I've just re-read what Matt said about numbered saddles so my point is moot I guess. Maybe.

The Ibanez system uses alternating saddles. Every second saddle is 180 degrees out of phase with the adjacent one, and you can tell them apart from the black or white lead. Graphtech took a different approach (assuming they did at all) where each saddle must be in a particular position for phase cancellation. Which is cool.

And I'm not being a cantankerous dick about these. I'm just posting when I should be in bed.

[The Dark Wolf]

Ah ha! I bet that damn switch on the LR Baggs circuit is a phase switch, then.

If you put the 3-way switch in BOTH mode, and output mode on 1 output only, you can hear some phase shit going on if you sweep the pan control (which is usually the piezo volume on dual output mode).

[Stitch]

Originally Posted by technomancer

Why would there be more 'brushing' noise with this than with the Baggs system? For all intents and purposes the piezo elements are in the same contact point, so neither would be more prone to this than the other

Originally Posted by The Dark Wolf

Ah ha! I bet that damn switch on the LR Baggs circuit is a phase switch, then.

If you put the 3-way switch in BOTH mode, and output mode on 1 output only, you can hear some phase shit going on if you sweep the pan control (which is usually the piezo volume on dual output mode).

I don't see how that would affect phase issues.

The whole idea behind the system was that a)when people brush the saddles, they will brush more than one and that b)white noise can be canceled out when 180 degrees out of phase (and the noises between saddles will be very similar) yet notes will not, as the standing wave patterns formed in a guitar string are almost completely unique to that string.