[Stitch]

Originally Posted by noodles

Notice that the standard trems have the long allen bolts that the fine tuners push down on, while the LoPros have the short allen bolts and use a different fine tuning mechanism.

Originally Posted by Stitch

Low profile versions can't as their string clamp bolt is much shorter and a protrusion from the saddle is raised or lowered for fine tuning, wheras OFR's and the like push the longer bolt up and down for fine tuning.

[astrocreep]

Originally Posted by Stitch

Your point caller?

Originally Posted by noodles

Actually, they should work on that trem, since it is not a low profile variant. Notice that the standard trems have the long allen bolts that the fine tuners push down on, while the LoPros have the short allen bolts and use a different fine tuning mechanism.

That was what i was thinking but it's a fairly expensive thing to take a chance on...

[darren]

Originally Posted by Stitch

Jibes about Ibanez, woohoo...



It seems like a better system because it utilises a point where there is more string movement for the elements. EBMM ran through some problems with their piezo system (and indeed, still do) when the string doesn't make a good enough contact with the element, and heavier strings seem to exacerbate this.

From what i understand, the EBMM system and Ibanez system have more in common than either of those with the GraphTech system.

EBMM and Ibanez both use a hard steel "chip" saddle insert that has a piezo element underneath. The EBMM system is a poor design that does indeed have problems if the string isn't running over it at the correct angle. I've had to tilt my bottom string's saddle towards the bass side to get the string to hit the saddle with enough pressure that it produces a clean piezo signal.

From what i understand, the GraphTech piezo elements are actually embedded within their graphite/composite saddle pieces, which means they're one piece instead of two. I could be wrong on this, though.

I have to order a set of these for my Dean's Tune-O-Matic.

And i need to find out if it's possible to jimmy together the wiring to make an 8-string piezo bridge possible on a Hipshot flat-mount bridge.

[technomancer]

Originally Posted by darren

And i need to find out if it's possible to jimmy together the wiring to make an 8-string piezo bridge possible on a Hipshot flat-mount bridge.

I've already talked to Mike Sherman about this, it is possible

[noodles]

Originally Posted by Stitch

Yes, Stitch, I saw your post. I was directly answering a question someone asked.

[WarriorOfMetal]

so, do the wires come out of the connector to install it? like, do you drill a hole under each saddle for the wire to run through? or do you have to cut one big hole for the connector and all the wires to fit through?

[noodles]

My guess is you run them through one of the extra saddle mounting holes. Floyds have three for each saddle, to cover the full range of saddle travel.

[HighGain510]

Originally Posted by WarriorOfMetal

so, do the wires come out of the connector to install it? like, do you drill a hole under each saddle for the wire to run through? or do you have to cut one big hole for the connector and all the wires to fit through?

Single drilled hole for each saddle on the bridge since each one has it's own connector and they all slide into that wide connector that goes to the preamp.

[HighGain510]

Originally Posted by darren

From what i understand, the GraphTech piezo elements are actually embedded within their graphite/composite saddle pieces, which means they're one piece instead of two. I could be wrong on this, though.

Judging from the looks of the ones I received I believe you're correct there Darren.

Originally Posted by noodles

My guess is you run them through one of the extra saddle mounting holes. Floyds have three for each saddle, to cover the full range of saddle travel.

The guys at Graphtech told me that you have to drill through the baseplate (unless that's just one way of installing them?) which also had to do with why they wouldn't keep any OFR7's with this system pre-installed in-stock. Good thing Mike Sherman has some sweet tools!


They will, however, be stocking OFR6's with piezo installed and sold as a kit pretty soon...

[noodles]

Drilling through an OFR baseplate is no joke. They're machined out of case-hardened, billet steel stock. I wouldn't attempt it without a drill press and a tungstun crabide or titanium bit.