Ebony Fretboard Dye

Blood Tempest · 03-04-2008, 10:17 PM

Anyone try their luck with ebony fretboard dye here? I was looking at this due to highly positive reviews. Black Fingerboard Stain at Stewart-MacDonald

Just wondering if you guys have used it or a comparable product. What were your results? Pics if possible.

Do you think it could be used to cover undesirable inlays if it was left over top of the inlays for an extended amount of time? Thanks for the input guys!

technomancer · 03-04-2008, 10:28 PM

A couple people on here have done this on rosewood boards. It works well and looks cool. It will not however cover inlays.

The Dark Wolf · 03-04-2008, 10:34 PM

I've done it. What Steve says, on all counts. ^

Blood Tempest · 03-04-2008, 10:36 PM

Awesome. I'm looking at buying some for the soon to be shipped LTD SC607 that I put money down on at DCGL.

I just was looking for a way to cover up that scribble inlay they put on the fretboard at the 12th position. Still gonna dye it ebony regardless. Any suggestions about the inlay though?

Edroz · 03-04-2008, 10:39 PM

buy another guitar that doesn't have some dudes name on the fretboard?

seriously, i think you're stuck with the inlay

Blood Tempest · 03-04-2008, 10:40 PM

Just seeing what else was out there on the opinion of the inlay. But, the big issue was the effectiveness of the dye. Which is apparently pretty great from all I've read.

If that damn inlay bothers me when I get it, I will find a way

Edroz · 03-04-2008, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blood Tempest

If that damn inlay bothers me when I get it, I will find a way

i would never buy one for that reason alone, but if i HAD to play one, it would be removed on concealed one way or another...

the thing that's annoying about it is that the ESP version has a blank ebony board, with a small signature on the headstock... and a much heftier price tag

.

Blood Tempest · 03-04-2008, 10:46 PM

Exactly. And the whole SC line is offered in nothing but black this year. So lame. Someone over at the ESP board suggested maybe attempting to cut out the inlay best as possible, filling the spot with a wood filler, then dying everything at once. I dunno how that would look though. I don't think it would come out too good. What do you think?

Edroz · 03-04-2008, 10:55 PM

soldierkahn removed and filled dot inlays, and dyed his fretboard...

http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/sev...-tutorial.html

i personally don't think it came out too good. but, that could be due to the dark, blurry pics though

.

soldierkahn, any more recent pics of this guitar?

Blood Tempest · 03-04-2008, 11:03 PM

WOW!

Thanks for that link! I think it turned out pretty nice! I didn't think anyone was crazy like me to attempt removing inlays.

That's a big help. Due to the ....ed up shape of the scribble on the fretboard, it's definitely going to take some work. I may see if my luthier will be able to do it. Just in fear of screwing it up beyond repair.

soldierkahn · 03-04-2008, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edroz

soldierkahn removed and filled dot inlays, and dyed his fretboard...

http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/sev...-tutorial.html

i personally don't think it came out too good. but, that could be due to the dark, blurry pics though

.

soldierkahn, any more recent pics of this guitar?

yeah i do apologize for the quality of the pics. Thats what i get for buyin a cheap cam. but no worries guys. Im currently doin a bunch of mods to that 7620 for a friend. So as soon as its finished guys, ill be using my dads work cam which has a lot better quality photos.

One suggestion tho that i learned along the way. i now use bondo as filler instead of wood filler. The wood filler is really fragile, whereas the bondo is harder than wood when it dries, and it doesnt shrink. So yeah, if youre lookin at gettin SC's sig taken out, i would suggest takin it to a luthier, as he would have better filler for it, not to mention its gonna be a bitch to get that inlay outta there, so be prepared to pay decent dough if he decides to do it....

edit: Thanks Droz for the recognition tho....

Blood Tempest · 03-05-2008, 11:45 AM

Yup. I definitely wouldn't attempt that on my own. Thanks for the info and advice!

soldierkahn · 03-05-2008, 11:47 AM

thats what the boards for...

technomancer · 03-05-2008, 11:53 AM

Yeah a luthier doing this would use rosewood dust mixed with filler which will blend much better and should also take the dye better to conceal where the work was done when the fretboard gets dyed

soldierkahn · 03-05-2008, 11:53 AM

^

Blood Tempest · 03-05-2008, 12:05 PM

Hmmm interesting. Sounds like a plan. White paint job on body and headstock, black binding on body (because the headstock already has it) and dyed fretboard with professional inlay removal.

I think its gonna look killer.

soldierkahn · 03-05-2008, 12:07 PM

its definitely not gonna look like a SRC anymore, lol. Cept for that damned pup layout (FTL IMO)

Blood Tempest · 03-05-2008, 12:11 PM

LOL. True. I'm not that big of a Deftones fan anyways

It's just gonna look like one bad ass Horizon 7. Everyone seems to dislike that pup layout...I don't get it. I likey.

djpharoah · 03-05-2008, 12:21 PM

If only it was reasonable to get a fretboard replaced...

Blood Tempest · 03-05-2008, 12:55 PM

Very true. Oh well. Dye will be just fine.

soldierkahn · 03-05-2008, 01:24 PM

yup. bet you didnt know that ebony has to be dyed as well. just like with every wood, ebony has grain streaks too, so most of the time, when you think "ebony" your thinkin of an already dyed fingerboard....

Blood Tempest · 03-05-2008, 01:40 PM

Dude. I had no clue. That's a really interesting fact. The wood that gets dyed is still what causes the dark tone of the sound though right?

soldierkahn · 03-05-2008, 01:51 PM

no no no, lol. IIRC, ebony is more dense than rosewood, equating a brighter tone. so if youre wanting a darker tone, leave the rosewood and just dye it

edit: and the dye doesnt change your tone, only aesthetics

The Dark Wolf · 03-05-2008, 02:27 PM

^ Yep.

Ebony is almost a cross between maple and rosewood. It's bright in comparison to rosewood.

Blood Tempest · 03-05-2008, 02:39 PM

Oh ok. Hmmm...but my Agile seems to sound darker than my Hellraiser prototype. Both are mahogany body. The Agile has an ebony board and the Hellraiser has a rosewood.

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03-04-2008, 10:17 PM	#1
Blood Tempest Peppers Messiah Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,240 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Ebony Fretboard Dye Anyone try their luck with ebony fretboard dye here? I was looking at this due to highly positive reviews. Black Fingerboard Stain at Stewart-MacDonald Just wondering if you guys have used it or a comparable product. What were your results? Pics if possible. Do you think it could be used to cover undesirable inlays if it was left over top of the inlays for an extended amount of time? Thanks for the input guys! Dark clouds in your heaven. Your end has only begun. You can scream but there's no rescue, I promise I'll make you sure that you die in time.

03-04-2008, 10:28 PM	#2
technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus • Super Moderator • Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Out there, somewhere Posts: 23,265 Thanked: 175 Feedback Score: 34 reviews	A couple people on here have done this on rosewood boards. It works well and looks cool. It will not however cover inlays. Incoming It's a surprise

03-04-2008, 10:34 PM	#3
The Dark Wolf *Canis lupis obscurus* Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toledo, Ohio. USA Posts: 15,475 Thanked: 94 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've done it. What Steve says, on all counts. ^ http://www.wolf.org

03-04-2008, 10:36 PM	#4
Blood Tempest Peppers Messiah Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,240 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Awesome. I'm looking at buying some for the soon to be shipped LTD SC607 that I put money down on at DCGL. I just was looking for a way to cover up that scribble inlay they put on the fretboard at the 12th position. Still gonna dye it ebony regardless. Any suggestions about the inlay though? Dark clouds in your heaven. Your end has only begun. You can scream but there's no rescue, I promise I'll make you sure that you die in time.

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03-04-2008, 10:39 PM	#5
Edroz new album soon! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,852 Thanked: 32 Feedback Score: 14 reviews	buy another guitar that doesn't have some dudes name on the fretboard? seriously, i think you're stuck with the inlay www.myspace.com/eddrozdowsky www.seasonofmourning.com www.insatanity.com www.myspace.com/insatanity http://www.vadercabinets.com/id3.html

03-04-2008, 10:40 PM	#6
Blood Tempest Peppers Messiah Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,240 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Just seeing what else was out there on the opinion of the inlay. But, the big issue was the effectiveness of the dye. Which is apparently pretty great from all I've read. If that damn inlay bothers me when I get it, I will find a way Dark clouds in your heaven. Your end has only begun. You can scream but there's no rescue, I promise I'll make you sure that you die in time.

03-04-2008, 10:46 PM	#8
Blood Tempest Peppers Messiah Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,240 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Exactly. And the whole SC line is offered in nothing but black this year. So lame. Someone over at the ESP board suggested maybe attempting to cut out the inlay best as possible, filling the spot with a wood filler, then dying everything at once. I dunno how that would look though. I don't think it would come out too good. What do you think? Dark clouds in your heaven. Your end has only begun. You can scream but there's no rescue, I promise I'll make you sure that you die in time.

03-04-2008, 10:55 PM	#9
Edroz new album soon! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,852 Thanked: 32 Feedback Score: 14 reviews	soldierkahn removed and filled dot inlays, and dyed his fretboard... http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/sev...-tutorial.html i personally don't think it came out too good. but, that could be due to the dark, blurry pics though . soldierkahn, any more recent pics of this guitar? www.myspace.com/eddrozdowsky www.seasonofmourning.com www.insatanity.com www.myspace.com/insatanity http://www.vadercabinets.com/id3.html

03-04-2008, 11:03 PM	#10
Blood Tempest Peppers Messiah Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,240 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	WOW! Thanks for that link! I think it turned out pretty nice! I didn't think anyone was crazy like me to attempt removing inlays. That's a big help. Due to the ....ed up shape of the scribble on the fretboard, it's definitely going to take some work. I may see if my luthier will be able to do it. Just in fear of screwing it up beyond repair. Dark clouds in your heaven. Your end has only begun. You can scream but there's no rescue, I promise I'll make you sure that you die in time.

03-05-2008, 11:45 AM	#12
Blood Tempest Peppers Messiah Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,240 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Yup. I definitely wouldn't attempt that on my own. Thanks for the info and advice! Dark clouds in your heaven. Your end has only begun. You can scream but there's no rescue, I promise I'll make you sure that you die in time.

03-05-2008, 11:47 AM	#13
soldierkahn BAD MAMMA-JAMMA Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 1,387 Thanked: 19 $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 6 reviews	thats what the boards for... Looking for an Ibanez RG970XL

03-05-2008, 11:53 AM	#14
technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus • Super Moderator • Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Out there, somewhere Posts: 23,265 Thanked: 175 Feedback Score: 34 reviews	Yeah a luthier doing this would use rosewood dust mixed with filler which will blend much better and should also take the dye better to conceal where the work was done when the fretboard gets dyed Incoming It's a surprise

03-05-2008, 11:53 AM	#15
soldierkahn BAD MAMMA-JAMMA Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 1,387 Thanked: 19 $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 6 reviews	^ Looking for an Ibanez RG970XL

03-05-2008, 12:05 PM	#16
Blood Tempest Peppers Messiah Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,240 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Hmmm interesting. Sounds like a plan. White paint job on body and headstock, black binding on body (because the headstock already has it) and dyed fretboard with professional inlay removal. I think its gonna look killer. Dark clouds in your heaven. Your end has only begun. You can scream but there's no rescue, I promise I'll make you sure that you die in time.

03-05-2008, 12:07 PM	#17
soldierkahn BAD MAMMA-JAMMA Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 1,387 Thanked: 19 $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 6 reviews	its definitely not gonna look like a SRC anymore, lol. Cept for that damned pup layout (FTL IMO) Looking for an Ibanez RG970XL

03-05-2008, 12:11 PM	#18
Blood Tempest Peppers Messiah Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,240 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	LOL. True. I'm not that big of a Deftones fan anyways It's just gonna look like one bad ass Horizon 7. Everyone seems to dislike that pup layout...I don't get it. I likey. Dark clouds in your heaven. Your end has only begun. You can scream but there's no rescue, I promise I'll make you sure that you die in time.

03-05-2008, 12:21 PM	#19
djpharoah Awwww Yeaaaah • Super Moderator • Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Cali' Posts: 13,214 Thanked: 321 Feedback Score: 119 reviews	If only it was reasonable to get a fretboard replaced...

03-05-2008, 12:55 PM	#20
Blood Tempest Peppers Messiah Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,240 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Very true. Oh well. Dye will be just fine. Dark clouds in your heaven. Your end has only begun. You can scream but there's no rescue, I promise I'll make you sure that you die in time.

03-05-2008, 01:24 PM	#21
soldierkahn BAD MAMMA-JAMMA Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 1,387 Thanked: 19 $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 6 reviews	yup. bet you didnt know that ebony has to be dyed as well. just like with every wood, ebony has grain streaks too, so most of the time, when you think "ebony" your thinkin of an already dyed fingerboard.... Looking for an Ibanez RG970XL

03-05-2008, 01:40 PM	#22
Blood Tempest Peppers Messiah Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,240 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Dude. I had no clue. That's a really interesting fact. The wood that gets dyed is still what causes the dark tone of the sound though right? Dark clouds in your heaven. Your end has only begun. You can scream but there's no rescue, I promise I'll make you sure that you die in time.

03-05-2008, 01:51 PM	#23
soldierkahn BAD MAMMA-JAMMA Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 1,387 Thanked: 19 $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $soldierkahn is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 6 reviews	no no no, lol. IIRC, ebony is more dense than rosewood, equating a brighter tone. so if youre wanting a darker tone, leave the rosewood and just dye it edit: and the dye doesnt change your tone, only aesthetics Looking for an Ibanez RG970XL

03-05-2008, 02:27 PM	#24
The Dark Wolf *Canis lupis obscurus* Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toledo, Ohio. USA Posts: 15,475 Thanked: 94 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ Yep. Ebony is almost a cross between maple and rosewood. It's bright in comparison to rosewood. http://www.wolf.org

03-05-2008, 02:39 PM	#25
Blood Tempest Peppers Messiah Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,240 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Oh ok. Hmmm...but my Agile seems to sound darker than my Hellraiser prototype. Both are mahogany body. The Agile has an ebony board and the Hellraiser has a rosewood. Dark clouds in your heaven. Your end has only begun. You can scream but there's no rescue, I promise I'll make you sure that you die in time.

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