Intonation Problem Schecter C-7 Hellraiser

Sabaism · 02-21-2008, 05:33 PM

Hi!
I´ve bought a C-7 Hellraiser and its a very beautyful guitar.
But i´ve got one problem. I don´t get the right intonation on d string. The tone at 12th fret is alwways to low even if i screw the saddle on the bridge to the front limit.
Whats wrong?

Greets Joey

Apophis · 02-22-2008, 06:28 AM

try move it in other direction

Sabaism · 02-22-2008, 08:23 AM

Thanks for reply, but when i move it to the other direction the d on 12th fret is nearly C#, thats nearly a halftone to deep.
I don´t understand how there can be such a huge variance.
If i move it to the front limit its nearly the d, but not exact.

Greets Joey

Apophis · 02-22-2008, 02:16 PM

maybe there is problem with frets

blackrobedone · 02-22-2008, 03:24 PM

I have a problem with the B string on my hellraiser - nowhere else to go. One thing is you might be able to completely unscrew the saddle, turn it backwards, and put it back on. That could give you a little more room to adjust.

JJ Rodriguez · 02-22-2008, 04:22 PM

Are you sure the string isn't fucked as well?

Edroz · 02-22-2008, 04:26 PM

what guage strings are you using? what tuning? and what strings is it occuring on?

Stitch · 02-22-2008, 09:14 PM

Far better question:

Are the strings brand new?

If they aren't then there isn't any point in continuing this discussion until you've put fresh ones on.

yevetz · 02-23-2008, 07:00 AM

Sabaism · 02-23-2008, 09:17 AM

Yes i´ve changed the strings three times ;-)
To turn the bridge would only help, if i were at the back limit, but i screw it to the front limit, so i couldn´t get it more to the front.
I use following string gauges in normal B tuning:

008 1st e in e
011 2nd b in b
014 3rd g in g
22 4th d in d
32 5th A in A
46 6th E in E
and a 56 as 7th in B

It only occurs on d string....very weird i think...

So i also talked with a good friend about this problem and he thinks the strings are to thin and the string action is to narrow but i love such deep string actions, so i´ve switched to a 26er d and now it works. In Future i will switch to an hybrid set, what do you thnk about the following gauges on the hellraiser:
009 1st
011 2nd
016 3rd
026 4th
036 5th
046 6th
058 7th

I donßt want to tune down or somethin like this. Are the gauges ok for the hellraiser?

Thanks alot for the replys till now, i´am very glad that you all try to help!

Greets Joey

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02-22-2008, 06:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
Apophis ROTER CUSTOM GUITARS Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 8,243 Real Name: Sebastian Main Seven: I need more strings :) Main ERG: RCG 9 & 10 string Rig: Line6 Thanked: 49	try move it in other direction

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Sabaism ss.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Giessen, Germany Posts: 4 Real Name: Johannes Main Seven: Ibanez RG 1527 Rig: Line6 POD-XT Pro Thanked: 0	Thanks for reply, but when i move it to the other direction the d on 12th fret is nearly C#, thats nearly a halftone to deep. I don´t understand how there can be such a huge variance. If i move it to the front limit its nearly the d, but not exact. Greets Joey

02-22-2008, 02:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Apophis ROTER CUSTOM GUITARS Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 8,243 Real Name: Sebastian Main Seven: I need more strings :) Main ERG: RCG 9 & 10 string Rig: Line6 Thanked: 49	maybe there is problem with frets

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blackrobedone ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: huntsville, al Posts: 86 Main Seven: Ibanez RG Rig: VHT Pittbull/K 100 Thanked: 3	I have a problem with the B string on my hellraiser - nowhere else to go. One thing is you might be able to completely unscrew the saddle, turn it backwards, and put it back on. That could give you a little more room to adjust.

02-22-2008, 04:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
JJ Rodriguez Pantysniffing zombie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 5,753 Main Seven: Ibanez RG7CT Rig: FramusDragon-Norbert Thanked: 37	Are you sure the string isn't fucked as well?

02-22-2008, 09:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
Stitch Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 6,768 Real Name: Simon Main Seven: Ibanez RG7420 & S7420FMTW Main ERG: Orion OG8 Rig: Peavey 6505 Thanked: 107	Far better question: Are the strings brand new? If they aren't then there isn't any point in continuing this discussion until you've put fresh ones on.

02-23-2008, 09:17 AM	#10 (permalink)
Sabaism ss.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Giessen, Germany Posts: 4 Real Name: Johannes Main Seven: Ibanez RG 1527 Rig: Line6 POD-XT Pro Thanked: 0	Yes i´ve changed the strings three times ;-) To turn the bridge would only help, if i were at the back limit, but i screw it to the front limit, so i couldn´t get it more to the front. I use following string gauges in normal B tuning: 008 1st e in e 011 2nd b in b 014 3rd g in g 22 4th d in d 32 5th A in A 46 6th E in E and a 56 as 7th in B It only occurs on d string....very weird i think... So i also talked with a good friend about this problem and he thinks the strings are to thin and the string action is to narrow but i love such deep string actions, so i´ve switched to a 26er d and now it works. In Future i will switch to an hybrid set, what do you thnk about the following gauges on the hellraiser: 009 1st 011 2nd 016 3rd 026 4th 036 5th 046 6th 058 7th I donßt want to tune down or somethin like this. Are the gauges ok for the hellraiser? Thanks alot for the replys till now, i´am very glad that you all try to help! Greets Joey

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