Blackout and the 18v mod

brother mack · 02-10-2008, 08:47 AM

I have just found out about this 18v mod for EMGs which i think ill try with my Eclipse but what i wanted to know was can it be done with Blackouts also? And If so, is it even necessary?

Ill be getting my set of Blackouts (stock permitting) next week and was wondering what everyones choice is so far ie bridge in bridge or neck in bridge? I read on another thread that the neck apparently has the same characteristics as an EMG 85 (or 707) which i prefer over an 81. Has anyone else found this is the case at all?

If no one knows ill give them both a bash when i get them and let you all know. Im just curious in the meantime

ps i hope im not repeating anyones past questions, i couldn't find another thread similar when i searched. Cheers!

HaGGuS · 02-10-2008, 09:42 AM

i not going to bother doing the 18 volt mod on my blackouts ..
i dont think its needed i.m.o

HamBungler · 02-10-2008, 12:15 PM

People have tried the mod with the Blackouts but found that it sounded weird, so I don't think it would be necessary really.

zimbloth · 02-10-2008, 12:15 PM

No benefit in using 18v with Blackouts, unlike EMGs.

Metal Ken · 02-10-2008, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zimbloth

No benefit in using 18v with Blackouts, unlike EMGs.

Frank has specifically said NOT to use them with 18v.

brother mack · 02-10-2008, 04:57 PM

Awesome, so this further adds to the supposed greatness of these pickups? Sweet right out of the box! Im really looking forward to giving these suckers a burl. Im not sure how long they have been kicking around for but im pretty sure they have just arrived in the last few months here in Australia. Does that sound right HaGGuS?

Theres a couple of youtube clips demoing the 6 string versions but no 7 string ones. If i can be bothered displaying my average guitar skills i will post one of my own trying both the neck then bridge in the bridge position, for anyone who is curious to hear them.

Thanks guys for the replies

Stitch · 02-10-2008, 04:58 PM

I think you just didn't read a thing anyone just posted man.

Frank Falbo, the DESIGNER of these pickups, has specifically said not to use them with 18V.

zimbloth · 02-10-2008, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brother mack

Awesome, so this further adds to the supposed greatness of these pickups? Sweet right out of the box! Im really looking forward to giving these suckers a burl. Im not sure how long they have been kicking around for but im pretty sure they have just arrived in the last few months here in Australia.

Theres a couple of youtube clips demoing the 6 string versions but no 7 string ones. If i can be bothered displaying my average guitar skills i will post one of my own trying both the neck then bridge in the bridge position, for anyone who is curious to hear them.

Yes. EMGs sound better with 18v because the tone is so compressed and squished, so the extra battery helps more lows pass through, more headroom, etc. Blackouts were designed to sound that way, they already have great dynamics, tons of bass response, passive-like volume knob sensitivity, more transparency so the guitars natural characteristics aren't lost, etc.

Also, youtube clips are always enjoyable to watch, but they won't really be accurate or prove anything one way or another due to the low fidelity.

HaGGuS · 02-10-2008, 09:16 PM

they got in oz about 3 weeks ago...
believe me.. your better off getting a set from the good old U.S of A.
you will get raped on price if you buy from a local dealer..
my ass is still sore ..

banjomikez on ebay has them sooo much cheaper..
eBay Australia Shop - banjomikez: Seymour Duncan Humbuckers, Seymour Duncan Trembuckers, DUNCAN SINGLE COIL PICK-UPS

brother mack · 02-10-2008, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stitch

I think you just didn't read a thing anyone just posted man.

What gives you that impression dude?

Take another look, to quote myself after reading Metal Ken's post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by brother mack

Awesome, so this further adds to the supposed greatness of these pickups? Sweet right out of the box!

HaGGuS, those prices are cheap as! We do get screwed a bit here price-wise. I called the Aus supplier today also and they said 6 week wait on them too, so maybe eBay it is. Thanks for the info.

zimbloth, yeah good point about the youtube vidz. I guess they are only good for showing off your chops, which i have none!

02-10-2008, 08:47 AM	#1
brother mack Not good at guitar Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Warrnambool, Australia Posts: 111 Real Name: Adam Main Seven: ESP Ltd SC-607 Rig: Randall T2 > MTS Cab Thanked: 4	Blackout and the 18v mod I have just found out about this 18v mod for EMGs which i think ill try with my Eclipse but what i wanted to know was can it be done with Blackouts also? And If so, is it even necessary? Ill be getting my set of Blackouts (stock permitting) next week and was wondering what everyones choice is so far ie bridge in bridge or neck in bridge? I read on another thread that the neck apparently has the same characteristics as an EMG 85 (or 707) which i prefer over an 81. Has anyone else found this is the case at all? If no one knows ill give them both a bash when i get them and let you all know. Im just curious in the meantime ps i hope im not repeating anyones past questions, i couldn't find another thread similar when i searched. Cheers!

02-10-2008, 09:42 AM	#2
HaGGuS Keeper of drop bears Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gold Coast , QLD , Australia Posts: 1,583 Real Name: Steve Main Seven: KxK Rig: Mesa Triple Rec Thanked: 25	i not going to bother doing the 18 volt mod on my blackouts .. i dont think its needed i.m.o *Dangerstralia* ... Oh look, our island is made out of the poison sacs of venemous snakes. And is inhabited by baby grim reapers Comment of the decade from ibznorange

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zimbloth Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 11,240 Real Name: Nick Main Seven: Rico Jr Customs Main ERG: Ibanez 8 Rig: VHT Pittbull UL Thanked: 67	No benefit in using 18v with Blackouts, unlike EMGs.

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brother mack Not good at guitar Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Warrnambool, Australia Posts: 111 Real Name: Adam Main Seven: ESP Ltd SC-607 Rig: Randall T2 > MTS Cab Thanked: 4	Awesome, so this further adds to the supposed greatness of these pickups? Sweet right out of the box! Im really looking forward to giving these suckers a burl. Im not sure how long they have been kicking around for but im pretty sure they have just arrived in the last few months here in Australia. Does that sound right HaGGuS? Theres a couple of youtube clips demoing the 6 string versions but no 7 string ones. If i can be bothered displaying my average guitar skills i will post one of my own trying both the neck then bridge in the bridge position, for anyone who is curious to hear them. Thanks guys for the replies

02-10-2008, 04:58 PM	#7
Stitch Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 6,894 Real Name: Simon Main Seven: Ibanez RG7420 & S7420FMTW Main ERG: Orion OG8 Rig: Peavey 6505 Thanked: 110	I think you just didn't read a thing anyone just posted man. Frank Falbo, the DESIGNER of these pickups, has specifically said not to use them with 18V.

02-10-2008, 09:16 PM	#9
HaGGuS Keeper of drop bears Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gold Coast , QLD , Australia Posts: 1,583 Real Name: Steve Main Seven: KxK Rig: Mesa Triple Rec Thanked: 25	they got in oz about 3 weeks ago... believe me.. your better off getting a set from the good old U.S of A. you will get raped on price if you buy from a local dealer.. my ass is still sore .. banjomikez on ebay has them sooo much cheaper.. eBay Australia Shop - banjomikez: Seymour Duncan Humbuckers, Seymour Duncan Trembuckers, DUNCAN SINGLE COIL PICK-UPS


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