X2n-7 vs. invader-7

eon_shift · 01-24-2008, 07:04 PM

how do these two stack up against each other. what are the differences and does one have anything over the other?

HaGGuS · 01-24-2008, 07:13 PM

x2n7 is a better pickup for metal i.m.o..
im removing the invader from my 7420..
but im keeping the x2n7 in my s7320 ..

TMM · 01-24-2008, 07:31 PM

They're polar opposites... the X2N7 is very bright and present, the Invader is very dark and thick sounding. The only similarity is that they're both high output.

In my opinion, the X2N7 can be be too bright for some guitars, and the Invader can be not bright enough for some.

Either will sound good in your 1527, but, speaking from experience, the Invader will probably react better with your Line 6 amp, since they tend to already be pretty bright sounding. With a tube amp that already a thicker tone, like a Recto or Thermion, the X2N7 would balance out better.

HamBungler · 01-24-2008, 08:59 PM

^

The X2N can be pretty bright but I find it pretty well balanced if you up the bass and mids just a tad with a bright setup. Its a really awesome pickup.

guitarjitsumaster · 01-24-2008, 10:14 PM

Yeah definately polar opposites. I prefer the X2N, but im a bright PU type guy and I like alot of clarity. So im biased that way. However I know alot of guys that like to use the invader to round out bright guitars. I would only give this advice, its very easy to round out an X2N's brightness. Its much harder to brighten up an invader IMO.

D-EJ915 · 01-24-2008, 10:55 PM

also note, my X2N sounds much better through my Ashdown (hot-rod marshall...) than my Livewire metal (has more highs and mids than invader and twice as hot) but the opposite is true for my Randall, so it also depends on the amp as well as the axe.

eon_shift · 01-25-2008, 03:17 AM

would i be able to get similar results with an evo as i would with an x2n-7 i know i would have to turn up the gain but the evo is probly more friendly for cleans. i dont know i dont have experience.

ibznorange · 01-25-2008, 03:19 AM

probably. the evo7 is still retardedly high output. which is AWESHUM
i like the evo better, as well. its a bit warmer. the X2N7 is pretty good, the Evo7 is great

Zorro

Apophis · 01-25-2008, 06:10 AM

Those are different pickups as mentioned before, personally I like X2N better

zimbloth · 01-25-2008, 06:17 AM

Definitely the Invader, in the right guitar it's the most brutal pickup ever IMO. I love it. The key is putting it in a very bright guitar. I've never heard one sounding good in an Ibanez or anything of the sort. The vast majority of bright guitars I've had them in sounded amazing. Amps are key too. The Invader seems to get along with VHTs, ENGLs, and Marshalls far better than Mesas and Peaveys.

That said the X2N is pretty cool too, but I wasn't a big fan of the treble character a whole lot - and I think it has almost too much output. As with the Invader though, in the right guitar/amp it can sound killer.

The Invader just has the coolest mid-range character of any pickup I've ever played. It growls, roars, and plunders villages. If you put it in an Ibanez or a dark guitar, expect that it could get muddy fast.

01-24-2008, 07:04 PM	#1
eon_shift ss.org Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pickering, Ontario Posts: 239 Real Name: James Main Seven: Ibanez Rg 1527 prestiege Rig: Line 6 spider2 Thanked: 2	X2n-7 vs. invader-7 how do these two stack up against each other. what are the differences and does one have anything over the other?

01-24-2008, 07:13 PM	#2
HaGGuS Keeper of drop bears Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gold Coast , QLD , Australia Posts: 1,588 Real Name: Steve Main Seven: KxK Rig: Mesa Triple Rec Thanked: 25	x2n7 is a better pickup for metal i.m.o.. im removing the invader from my 7420.. but im keeping the x2n7 in my s7320 .. *Dangerstralia* ... Oh look, our island is made out of the poison sacs of venemous snakes. And is inhabited by baby grim reapers Comment of the decade from ibznorange

01-24-2008, 07:31 PM	#3
TMM Badass Mutha 4000 Join Date: May 2006 Location: NH, USA Posts: 856 Real Name: Tom Main Seven: KxK Sii-7 Rig: H&K Warp 7 /412 /215 Thanked: 11	They're polar opposites... the X2N7 is very bright and present, the Invader is very dark and thick sounding. The only similarity is that they're both high output. In my opinion, the X2N7 can be be too bright for some guitars, and the Invader can be not bright enough for some. Either will sound good in your 1527, but, speaking from experience, the Invader will probably react better with your Line 6 amp, since they tend to already be pretty bright sounding. With a tube amp that already a thicker tone, like a Recto or Thermion, the X2N7 would balance out better. THEMAMMONMACHINE PUTRESCINE Dancing Darth

01-24-2008, 08:59 PM	#4
HamBungler Lord Zorgatron Join Date: May 2007 Location: Woodville, OH Posts: 1,085 Real Name: Nate Main Seven: Schecter A-7 w/X2N7 Rig: Peavey -> GNX 3 Thanked: 13	^ The X2N can be pretty bright but I find it pretty well balanced if you up the bass and mids just a tad with a bright setup. Its a really awesome pickup. I'm assuming he's going to want to mass produce these rack pies, and why not? I love racks, I love pies, so put them together and you have pie covered titties. - JJ Don't thank me, thank the wombat rapist. - Jamie Mah Deviantart Myspace The Many Faces of Egoraptor

01-24-2008, 10:14 PM	#5
guitarjitsumaster seven times seven Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas City Texas Posts: 425 Real Name: Dave Main Seven: Schecter A-7, Ibanez 7620 Rig: Randall Warhead Thanked: 2 / 1	Yeah definately polar opposites. I prefer the X2N, but im a bright PU type guy and I like alot of clarity. So im biased that way. However I know alot of guys that like to use the invader to round out bright guitars. I would only give this advice, its very easy to round out an X2N's brightness. Its much harder to brighten up an invader IMO. Try to exclude the possibility of suffering which the order of nature and the existence of free-wills involve, and you find that you have excluded life itself.

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01-24-2008, 10:55 PM	#6
D-EJ915 <3's Tsukasa Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 16,619 Real Name: Kagami Main Seven: Blackjack ATX Rig: Randall RG75G2C Thanked: 201	also note, my X2N sounds much better through my Ashdown (hot-rod marshall...) than my Livewire metal (has more highs and mids than invader and twice as hot) but the opposite is true for my Randall, so it also depends on the amp as well as the axe. My Site: əBCAir

01-25-2008, 03:17 AM	#7
eon_shift ss.org Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pickering, Ontario Posts: 239 Real Name: James Main Seven: Ibanez Rg 1527 prestiege Rig: Line 6 spider2 Thanked: 2	would i be able to get similar results with an evo as i would with an x2n-7 i know i would have to turn up the gain but the evo is probly more friendly for cleans. i dont know i dont have experience.

01-25-2008, 03:19 AM	#8
ibznorange Chief Officer/RHLC © Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 7,967 Real Name: Max Main Seven: Dean Vendetta 1.7 Rig: None Thanked: 54	probably. the evo7 is still retardedly high output. which is AWESHUM i like the evo better, as well. its a bit warmer. the X2N7 is pretty good, the Evo7 is great Zorro Reverse Headstocks or Bust ALL HEIL THE ADMINISHREDDER!

01-25-2008, 06:10 AM	#9
Apophis ROTER CUSTOM GUITARS Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 9,233 Real Name: Sebastian Main Seven: I need more strings :) Main ERG: RCG 9 & 10 string Rig: Line6 Thanked: 46	Those are different pickups as mentioned before, personally I like X2N better

01-25-2008, 06:17 AM	#10
zimbloth Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 11,246 Real Name: Nick Main Seven: Rico Jr Customs Main ERG: Ibanez 8 Rig: VHT Pittbull UL Thanked: 67	Definitely the Invader, in the right guitar it's the most brutal pickup ever IMO. I love it. The key is putting it in a very bright guitar. I've never heard one sounding good in an Ibanez or anything of the sort. The vast majority of bright guitars I've had them in sounded amazing. Amps are key too. The Invader seems to get along with VHTs, ENGLs, and Marshalls far better than Mesas and Peaveys. That said the X2N is pretty cool too, but I wasn't a big fan of the treble character a whole lot - and I think it has almost too much output. As with the Invader though, in the right guitar/amp it can sound killer. The Invader just has the coolest mid-range character of any pickup I've ever played. It growls, roars, and plunders villages. If you put it in an Ibanez or a dark guitar, expect that it could get muddy fast.

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