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| Guns N Guitars ![]() Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 480
Real Name: Brian Main Seven: ESP SC-607 Natural Main ERG: ESP LTD 608b Rig: BossGT8 > BBE > PVK Thanked: 17
![]() ![]() | New to Trem systems (ZR) Having issues Ok well i just got my S7320 and it comes with a ZR trem. Now i never had a trem before. I know how to tune it and etc, but im having this like unwanted vibration, and noise when i play notes, even single notes. To put this in a picture, instead of hearing a crisp clean sound like ______________________ i get /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\, and the wave gets faster and faster as the note holds. Even if i got back and forth to different notes, every one of them is this buzzing/vibrato sound. I suppose i need to raise the bridge somehow, make adjustments? Im just not sure wtf to do really. And im tuned to G#C# standard |
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| Chief Officer/RHLC © ![]() Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: AZ Posts: 7,358
Real Name: Max Main Seven: Ir now Sevenless :squint: Main ERG: A Dead Cat Rig: Mesa Rectoverb Combo Thanked: 43
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | um, are your saddles locked down tight? they should be as tight as you can get them without exerting any real effort. just a good turn of the wrist should do it. be really careful not to tighten them too much though, or you can strip them out and thats all bad. other thing in question. your zeropoint unit in the back, is that touching the baseplate of the trem? make sure it would be about 2 or 3 mm further than it is if the block werent there. if its just barely touching the baseplate, the plate could be vibrating against it when your hit a note, which would then reverberate back into the string and get picked up by the pickups and yes i know that is really nonsensical sounding. i just got off work. if anybody else gets what i mean, please be so kind as to rephrase lol. otherwise ill try again in a bit [edit] lets try again your saddles could be loose. loosen em up (without moving them) and get them snug, then give a wrench maybe... 1/4 of a turn? just to get it tight. dont tighten it too much or you'll strip the bolt thought the other issue, is the zeropoint bar in the back. make sure its pressed firmly against the toneblock fo the bridge. if its just barely touching, they could be vibrating against one another when you play wait. goddamnit it. how did i not think to ask... are the strings just buzzing? like up against the frets? Reverse Headstocks or Bust Dude...i just got a spam email that was titled "Funky date rape trick" -Zepp88 I just got another funny email "Her pussy smiled at me" -Zepp88 Don't tell me you haven't heard of Raptor Jesus It's important that you know this information :headnod: It will decide your fate when we are pwned. -JoeOvChaosI was going KAT KAT KAT KAT and you were going KAT... chk... KAT... chk-die. -TomAwesome Last edited by ibznorange; 11-29-2007 at 02:14 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost |
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| Guns N Guitars ![]() Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 480
Real Name: Brian Main Seven: ESP SC-607 Natural Main ERG: ESP LTD 608b Rig: BossGT8 > BBE > PVK Thanked: 17
![]() ![]() | hmm saddles are tight as they get. I sort of get what you are saying about the base. Ive checked to see if anything was touching it and tbh couldnt really tell. But the funny thing is, i had this thing in standard tuning and i didnt even notice the noises until i down tuned it to G#C#Standard. Could it possibly be that because the strings they put on this thing are pretty damn light. I also notice it does it alot more when i do slow bends. Keep in mind its mostly the bottom 4 strings that do this. |
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| Sanctity In Blasphemous Ruin • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 22,283
Real Name: Legion Main Seven: Loomis, C7HR, Giannini 7 Rig: Mesa Rectoverb 50 Thanked: 82
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I'd do a change of strings and see if that affects it at all. Also, try dampening the springs and the like. Glory and praise to Thee, Satan, on high, Where Thou didst reign, in Hell where Thou dost lie, Vanquished, silent, dreaming eternally. Grant that my soul some day rest close to Thee Under the Tree of Knowledge which shall spread Its branches like a Temple overhead. ~Charles Baudelaire http://www.myspace.com/impurity Brutal Skullfucking Death Metal |
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| Guns N Guitars ![]() Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 480
Real Name: Brian Main Seven: ESP SC-607 Natural Main ERG: ESP LTD 608b Rig: BossGT8 > BBE > PVK Thanked: 17
![]() ![]() | hmmm now i noticed, it does it most when using the bridge pickup. But atm im using headphones so i cant really tell THAT much, but ill try again tommorow |
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| Chief Officer/RHLC © ![]() Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: AZ Posts: 7,358
Real Name: Max Main Seven: Ir now Sevenless :squint: Main ERG: A Dead Cat Rig: Mesa Rectoverb Combo Thanked: 43
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ... my money is on the strings... the bar SHOULD touch and push. more than just barely. the 2 parts should be pushing against eachother with a reasonable amount of force. also check that your pickup is level and not slanted... ibanez do that. the pickup then vibrates against the ring or wood |
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| Rev. 0.1 ![]() Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 143
Real Name: Ingo Main Seven: RG7420 Rig: TriAxis/DynaWatt2020 Thanked: 2
![]() | If I got you right Ibznorange is already on the right track. If you didn´t have the problem in Standard tuning and experience it with a dropped tuning you probably get a kind of flutter effect. I noticed the same on my S520EX when I went from E Standard to drop C#. As you tune down the string tension decreases (obviously) and the block on the back of the trem loses contact with the ZPS bar (Zero Position System). When you pick hard it will then cause the trem to flutter (I found that the ZR is very prone to flutter). In the end it just means you have to readjust the spring tension of the trem for your new tuning. With the awesome ZR it´s a piece of cake. You just have to turn the knob on the back of the guitar until the trem block touches the ZPS bar (the bar with the two small springs). When you press you trem bar the block should immediatly move the ZPS bar without any play. On the other hand when you raise the bar the block should come free of the ZPS bar without the ZPS bar moving. You´re looking for the point of balance where the trem block touches the ZPS bar without taking it out of it´s rest position. Don´t forget to check and retune when you setup the spring tension. At least that´s what I´ve experienced and how I set up my S. Hope it helps. ![]() |
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| I am with Jesus! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: São Paulo-Brazil Posts: 440
Real Name: Kayroz Main Seven: Halo BH-VII Rig: Digitech 2120 VGS Thanked: 3
![]() ![]() ![]() | I was just having the same problem, though not with a ZR. The problem is your strings are too light for down tuning. Just thrown some bigger gauge set on mine and the buzz went away. |
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