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Old 11-28-2007, 10:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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New to Trem systems (ZR) Having issues

Ok well i just got my S7320 and it comes with a ZR trem. Now i never had a trem before. I know how to tune it and etc, but im having this like unwanted vibration, and noise when i play notes, even single notes. To put this in a picture, instead of hearing a crisp clean sound like ______________________ i get /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\, and the wave gets faster and faster as the note holds. Even if i got back and forth to different notes, every one of them is this buzzing/vibrato sound. I suppose i need to raise the bridge somehow, make adjustments? Im just not sure wtf to do really. And im tuned to G#C# standard
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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sounds like maybe an inotation problem

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Old 11-28-2007, 11:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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um, are your saddles locked down tight?
they should be as tight as you can get them without exerting any real effort. just a good turn of the wrist should do it. be really careful not to tighten them too much though, or you can strip them out and thats all bad.

other thing in question.
your zeropoint unit in the back, is that touching the baseplate of the trem? make sure it would be about 2 or 3 mm further than it is if the block werent there. if its just barely touching the baseplate, the plate could be vibrating against it when your hit a note, which would then reverberate back into the string and get picked up by the pickups

and yes i know that is really nonsensical sounding. i just got off work. if anybody else gets what i mean, please be so kind as to rephrase lol.
otherwise ill try again in a bit

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your saddles could be loose.
loosen em up (without moving them)
and get them snug, then give a wrench maybe... 1/4 of a turn?
just to get it tight. dont tighten it too much or you'll strip the bolt thought

the other issue, is the zeropoint bar in the back. make sure its pressed firmly against the toneblock fo the bridge. if its just barely touching, they could be vibrating against one another when you play

wait.
goddamnit it. how did i not think to ask...
are the strings just buzzing? like up against the frets?

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Old 11-29-2007, 02:27 AM   #4 (permalink)
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hmm saddles are tight as they get. I sort of get what you are saying about the base. Ive checked to see if anything was touching it and tbh couldnt really tell. But the funny thing is, i had this thing in standard tuning and i didnt even notice the noises until i down tuned it to G#C#Standard. Could it possibly be that because the strings they put on this thing are pretty damn light. I also notice it does it alot more when i do slow bends. Keep in mind its mostly the bottom 4 strings that do this.
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I'd do a change of strings and see if that affects it at all. Also, try dampening the springs and the like.


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Old 11-29-2007, 02:39 AM   #6 (permalink)
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hmmm now i noticed, it does it most when using the bridge pickup. But atm im using headphones so i cant really tell THAT much, but ill try again tommorow
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Not possible your headphone cord is somehow vibrating with the guitar, is it?

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... my money is on the strings...

the bar SHOULD touch and push. more than just barely. the 2 parts should be pushing against eachother with a reasonable amount of force.

also check that your pickup is level and not slanted... ibanez do that. the pickup then vibrates against the ring or wood
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If I got you right Ibznorange is already on the right track.

If you didn´t have the problem in Standard tuning and experience it with a dropped tuning you probably get a kind of flutter effect. I noticed the same on my S520EX when I went from E Standard to drop C#.
As you tune down the string tension decreases (obviously) and the block on the back of the trem loses contact with the ZPS bar (Zero Position System). When you pick hard it will then cause the trem to flutter (I found that the ZR is very prone to flutter).

In the end it just means you have to readjust the spring tension of the trem for your new tuning. With the awesome ZR it´s a piece of cake. You just have to turn the knob on the back of the guitar until the trem block touches the ZPS bar (the bar with the two small springs). When you press you trem bar the block should immediatly move the ZPS bar without any play. On the other hand when you raise the bar the block should come free of the ZPS bar without the ZPS bar moving.
You´re looking for the point of balance where the trem block touches the ZPS bar without taking it out of it´s rest position.
Don´t forget to check and retune when you setup the spring tension.

At least that´s what I´ve experienced and how I set up my S. Hope it helps.
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I was just having the same problem, though not with a ZR.
The problem is your strings are too light for down tuning.
Just thrown some bigger gauge set on mine and the buzz went away.
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