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Old 11-28-2007, 08:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Wiring madness!

2 push pull pots and a 5 way switch? This is what the result looks like...


And I wonder what does two pickups are? Could they be seymour duncans? Dimarzios? Hmmmm.... Maybe Hal will know... Lets just refer to them as mystery toppings...


Anyway, magaed to:

One push pull : Neck Phase Reverse
One Push pull : Coil Tap

The phase reverse takes the output from the coil tap on the neck.

Then, the switch is wired:
Pos 1 : Bridge (coil tap/full)
Pos 2 : Inner coils of Bridge/neck (coil tap phase reverse, I think)
Pos 3 : Neck and Bridge in parrallell (coil tap AND phase reverse work here, again, I think)
Pos 4 : Just the neck coil split on it's own. Had done too much wiring and the poor vlx-91 couldn't handle any more wires...
Pos 5 : Neck (coil tap/full)

Makes something between 9 and 11 different combinations.

I am quite partial to the bridge and neck out of phase, and with the coil tap it's very cool as well, two singles out of phase!

As to whether I'll ever attempt this again? Lord knows, as it took long enough to do, although I am seriously considering forgoing the middle single coil on the 1077xl on it's own, and doing the coil tap phase reverse combo on that when I have some spare time, as it really is pretty cool.

Another observation: if you have knobs that are the slip on kind (and thus work abysmally with a push pull) then jamming them on with a bit of heat shrink tubing works really well.

Also, these mysterious toppings do require a rg7620 to be routed, as the cavities aren't deep enough for them to allow height adjustment. These mystery toppings just about fit...

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Old 11-28-2007, 09:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i know the feeling. when i was starting the wiring for my RG7620, i thought, "christ, i already did this to the RG7621, why put myself through it again?"

looks good though. i should get different colors of wire, instead of just white. i imagine it makes it at least a LITTLE bit easier

do you have a wiring diagram available?

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Old 11-28-2007, 09:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Wiring diagram...ummm...actually no :/ Kind of did it on the fly...

It's not too hard to do, but if you leave a break of a few days it can get really quite confusing...

Basic gist is:
Wire up the coil tap first. Colour code the exit wires so you know which pickup is which.

Then, take the neck pickup output from the coil tap, and wire that to the phase reverse along with the the ground wire of the 4 conductor wiring. phase reverse diagrams can be found in dimarzio pickup wiring isnstructions, again, not too hard...

Colour code the "hot" and the "ground" wires coming out of this switch. Now wire as you normally would.

Colour coding is a very very very very very good idea when attempting this, otherwise it just gets stupidly messy and confusing.

However, the split/phase reverse humbuckers in parralell wiring is very nice. I am definately (when I am less scared of it) do it to the 1077
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Just as reference, this is what it looked like before i decided to see if i could pull that wiring off....

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Cool configuration.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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so how does the out-of-phase sound compared to a full series connection? or a parallel one?
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Just a question, has anyone ever tried to put a PCB in there rather than having all those wires? Seems to me that it might clean up some of the "mess". Though, there will still be a few wires, just not as many.

I've been thinking about that for one of my guitars.

Would it be worth experimenting on?
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:23 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re. circuit boards, it wouldn't achieve much in James' guitar. Hard to see clearly but it looks like he needs a beefier soldering iron for the earth connections to the pots though.

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