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Old 11-12-2007, 03:26 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Hmm.. generally now a days alot of guys use 5150/6505 for "metal" stuff.. check youtube for some sound clips

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Old 11-12-2007, 03:31 PM   #12 (permalink)
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+1 When I think of a 5150/6505 I lean towards heavy/brutal metal for the most part. You can get nice lead sounds out of a 5150 but it's not going to be the smooth virtuoso-esque tone you're talking about I wouldn't think.

If you are looking for a Petrucci-esque lead tone buy a Mark IV or similar. I know they are expensive as hell in Europe but that's going to put you on the track to THAT type of sound.
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:31 PM   #13 (permalink)
 
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wil the 6505 combo do a smooth virtuoso'ish lead?
Oh yes. And it will do it WAY better than your Fender.

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+1 When I think of a 5150/6505 I lean towards heavy/brutal metal for the most part. You can get nice lead sounds out of a 5150 but it's not going to be the smooth virtuoso-esque tone you're talking about I wouldn't think.

If you are looking for a Petrucci-esque lead tone buy a Mark IV or similar. I know they are expensive as hell in Europe but that's going to put you on the track to THAT type of sound.
I don't agree. Dialled in properly, my 6505 can get some awesome, sooth liquidy distortions from it, especially when coupled with a decent neck pickup.

While the cleans on it are not the best, the fact that you essentially have two red channels when cranked mean taht coupled with a judiciously placed boost pedal, it is very easy to cover the lead/rhythm parts of playing if taht is the sort of stuff you are looking to do.

A final point - and I'm not having a dig at you - a 6505 head goes for at most £550 ($1100) over here, often less. A Mark IV goes for even more that a Dual Rec, and second hand those go for about £1400 - ($2800)

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Old 11-12-2007, 05:48 PM   #14 (permalink)
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you just have to work some knobs, and the 6505 will definately give you that sound, at least with a good pedal.
like stitch said, use your neck pickup, thats going to give you that warmth when coupled with lower distortion. too many people live off of the bridge pickup because of its clarity under heavy distortion.
and i think the cleans are fine, you just need an eq before it goes in. you can get a good eq pedal for like, 80 usd

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Old 11-13-2007, 06:33 AM   #15 (permalink)
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a 6505 combo seems to be the next purchase then

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Old 11-13-2007, 06:47 AM   #16 (permalink)
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For what it's worth, the 6505 combo I bought to try out a few months ago had some of the worst tone I've ever heard. There are better combos out there IMO.

FWIW I liked the old 5150 heads.
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:22 AM   #17 (permalink)
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wjhats the difference? would a 6505HD and a 2x12 be better or is it just plain crap u say?
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:29 AM   #18 (permalink)
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sikth use the heads and their lead tones are fluid and smooth as fuck.

its all about using the neck pickup if your using the bridge you will probably always retain an element of harshness in your sound
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:32 PM   #19 (permalink)
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