[7 Dying Trees]

Originally Posted by Xtremevillan

I'm guessing he can't take actives.

?

Bareknuckles aren't active?

[ohio_eric]

Originally Posted by 7 Dying Trees

Just sounds awesome now, and you won't regret it Get a logarithmic pot put in for the volume, 500k, and get a push pull pot (or two).

Use one push pull to split the humbuckers (so you can have single coil goodness from them) and also, you can use a second push pull to flip the phase of the neck pickup, so that when you run bridge + neck in parrallel that it'll give you a petrucci type sound (It's nice, i wired my jem up to do this, definately very cool!)

This intrigues me. This seems like an interesting way to get a ton of cool sounds and not have a ton of switches on your guitar.

[Xtremevillan]

Er, what I meant, is take actives and turn them into BK's.

I have Duncan Designed that I wouldn't mind turning into BK's.

[7 Dying Trees]

Originally Posted by ohio_eric

This intrigues me. This seems like an interesting way to get a ton of cool sounds and not have a ton of switches on your guitar.

well what you need to do:

Yep. Push pulls are the way to go. Set it up so that when not pulled out you have standard operation, then when they're pulled out you get tonal madness

You also need a vlx-91 or the ernie ball (i believe) 5 way switch of madness (4 plates, it's huge, won't fit in a front routed ibby as far as i know, can't remember)

Basically, one push pull pot should be wired to flip the phase of the neck pickup, (ie, ground becomes hot, hot becomes ground, i think, basically you want the signal going the reverse way, the dimarzio wiring booklet shows you how to do it, it's not hard)

Next up, you want a push pull for coil splitting. On the bridge pickup simply run a wire from the two 4conductor connections you solder together to one lug, the hot to the other. On the neck, with the phas wiring, take the output of the phase selected push pull, wire that to hot and then do the same wiring from the joined conductors (you get the principle)

Then wire up the switch. Choose 5 configurations of the pickups and have fun. It can get pretty bizarre and mindbending if you don't draw a diagram first.

In fact. draw the diagram first, trust me!

[7 Dying Trees]

Originally Posted by Xtremevillan

Er, what I meant, is take actives and turn them into BK's.

I have Duncan Designed that I wouldn't mind turning into BK's.

I think that if they are the same size as dimarzios/seymnour duncans, and not EMG housings, that the price of you sending them there, getting them rewound stripped, gutted, re-waxpotted et all basically amounts to the same price as actually buying a proper set!

[ohio_eric]

What about this switch?

Super Switch at Stewart-MacDonald

[Alpo]

The BK's are in! But not wired, sadly. They were sitting in there pretty crooked, but I just wrapped some cardboard in the foam that came with the BK's and put that under there, that fixed it right up! The neck pickup is pretty close to the high e, but it still rings well all the way up to the 24th. So no problem there. My dad's got some pretty nice chisels if I need to take a few mm's off the neck pup cavity. Here's a few pics of the unfinished install:

They look absolutely gorgeous! I'll just have to give it a good cleaning when I'm done.





I don't think I'll be wiring in any push-pull pots anytime soon. I think if I can manage the Ibanez 5-way, I'll be pretty happy. Then I could take a look at that bass of mine...

[ohio_eric]

Wire it up!!!!

Forge metal now!!!

I command thee!!

[Drache713]

I had some similar problems with my experiences with Seymour Duncan's and Dimarzios, I'll share my experiences and solutions with them.

In some guitars I have installed Dimarzios in (i.e. s7420, rg7421, etc.), the wires would come through the baseplate and stick out the corner, so that the pickup would not sit flat because the wire was sticking out on the bottom. So what I did was pull the wire and sleeve back through the baseplate so that it doesnt go through the baseplate and protrude on the bottom anymore, it actually sits on top of the baseplate and runs right next to the coil. On guitars that had dimarzio new 7's installed (i.e. rg7621, rg7620, rg1077xl, etc.) I didnt have this problem because they already had dimarzio's in them so they were already routed to accomodate for the cable coming out the bottom of the baseplate.

As far as Seymour Duncans go, the pickup mounting tabs are much taller than any ibanez stock pickup. The pole pieces extend past the mounting tabs of the pickup, so you have to route 7 "holes/pools" underneath the pickup in the pickup mounting cavity to accomodate the pole pieces. Even then, when you mount the pickup and screw the pickup all the way down so the mounting tabs are pressing against the body wood in the cavity, it will fit but it will be VERY close to the strings. The only way to make it go lower is to either route deeper the rectangular portions where the mounting tabs are so they can go deeper, or bend and cut the mounting tabs so that they are flat instead of in the L-shape, so they can mount flat.

I suspect that this is the problem you're having with the Bareknuckles. They should mount fine, as long as you route for the 7 pole pieces if they extend past the bottom of the baseplate and mounting tabs, but like I said the pickup will most likely sit very close to the strings. The only cure for this again is to either route the route for the tabs deeper, or modify the baseplate/mounting tabs. To get an idea look at a Jackson DR7/DX7. Those have direct mounted duncan designed pickups with the same type of baseplate with the extended mounting tabs. The routes where the tabs go are actually deeper than the route where the pickup actually sits, so that it can go lower.

Hopefully this helps some.

EDIT: Crap, you already got them put in! Taking forever to write out a post FTL!

[Alpo]

Originally Posted by Drache713

Crap, you already got them put in! Taking forever to write out a post FTL!

Thanks for the help, anyway! They didn't fit perfect, but the cable wasn't a problem. I might route the neck pup cavity a little, but I'll get them wired up first then see of there are any problems. I'm taking a break for the rest of the day, though. I've worked on it since 11 am, and it's now 7 pm. I'll figure out how I need to wire them tomorrow and hopefully get it done. But now I'm just going to relax and play a bit of Metroid Prime 3.