MIDI pickup for 8 string fanned fret

Maniacal · 08-02-2007, 04:59 PM

Can anyone tell me where I can get one of these for my BM?

The guys at Conklin wont help me because its not one of their guitars so I need to look elsewhere...any ideas?

Jon

technomancer · 08-02-2007, 05:23 PM

These guys supply Conklin's stuff:

RMC Pickups

Downside is the 13 pin standard that all of the guitar synths use only support six distinct notes at a time, so Conklin has to be stretching the truth on what they can do. It's called a "hexaphonic" system for a reason

We were discussing this in the extended range forum, the only way to do it and have it work would be to use 2 midi preamps with 2 13 pin outs going to 2 breakout boxes and have 1 for 6 strings and one for 2.

technomancer · 08-02-2007, 06:09 PM

I just emailed Conklin and got an answer back, I was correct, their MIDI output is only six strings. You can do piezos for all eight strings, but current midi systems only support six strings.

Maniacal · 08-02-2007, 06:36 PM

Thanks for the help. Looks like i'm stumped then.
I am amazed someone hasn't made full 8 string MIDI gear.
The wait continues.............................

technomancer · 08-02-2007, 07:34 PM

Yeah the problem is the 'standard' that everybody uses in the 13 pin interface is only designed to handle six strings... I don't even care about most of the stuff those systems can do, I just want midi out for all the strings I use to feed a laptop

MF_Kitten · 08-03-2007, 11:18 AM

when, oh when, will the day come when the whole midi thing is in the guitar, and there´s a midi output from the guitar, and you can plug directly into any midi device and play... when that day arrives, i will be filled with glee...

HamBungler · 08-03-2007, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by technomancer

It's called a "hexaphonic" system for a reason

So basically they'd have to make an octaphonic pickup system?

technomancer · 08-03-2007, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HamBungler

So basically they'd have to make an octaphonic pickup system?

Technically, yes

IMHO the problem with the current 13 pin system is it's not really designed to do midi, it's designed to do a ton of stuff with zero expandability. The 13 pin system carries six distinct signals for piezo pickups, a signal for magnetic pickups, and if I recall a mix of the above. It's designed to be used as a single massive out. It's cool and you can do a lot of crazy stuff... as long as you never want more than six strings.

I think for general usage a systems that just takes a piezo signal and converts it to midi would be more useful, not to mention arbitrarily expandable. I really wish I knew more about electronics as I'd be tempted to try to build something.

08-02-2007, 04:59 PM	#1
Maniacal ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Reading Posts: 248 Real Name: Jonathan Main Seven: BlackMachine 884 8 string Main ERG: 8 string BlackMachine 884 Rig: Vetta II Thanked: 4	MIDI pickup for 8 string fanned fret Can anyone tell me where I can get one of these for my BM? The guys at Conklin wont help me because its not one of their guitars so I need to look elsewhere...any ideas? Jon

08-02-2007, 05:23 PM	#2
technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 8,882 Real Name: Steve Main Seven: KxK Sii-7 Rig: Fargen -> Orange Thanked: 49	These guys supply Conklin's stuff: RMC Pickups Downside is the 13 pin standard that all of the guitar synths use only support six distinct notes at a time, so Conklin has to be stretching the truth on what they can do. It's called a "hexaphonic" system for a reason We were discussing this in the extended range forum, the only way to do it and have it work would be to use 2 midi preamps with 2 13 pin outs going to 2 breakout boxes and have 1 for 6 strings and one for 2. Incoming Pimptastic Purple KxK Singlecut of Doom Orange 2x12 - Damn am I colorful

08-03-2007, 11:18 AM	#6
MF_Kitten Whines about shit! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lillehammer, Norway Posts: 2,093 Real Name: Morten Main Seven: Schecter Omen 7 Extreme Main ERG: Agile 28" baritone Rig: Pod X3 Live Thanked: 74	when, oh when, will the day come when the whole midi thing is in the guitar, and there´s a midi output from the guitar, and you can plug directly into any midi device and play... when that day arrives, i will be filled with glee... -------------------------------------- Æn Æppl Æ Dæi, Kiips De Dåktor Awæi

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08-02-2007, 06:09 PM	#3
technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 8,882 Real Name: Steve Main Seven: KxK Sii-7 Rig: Fargen -> Orange Thanked: 49	I just emailed Conklin and got an answer back, I was correct, their MIDI output is only six strings. You can do piezos for all eight strings, but current midi systems only support six strings.

08-02-2007, 06:36 PM	#4
Maniacal ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Reading Posts: 248 Real Name: Jonathan Main Seven: BlackMachine 884 8 string Main ERG: 8 string BlackMachine 884 Rig: Vetta II Thanked: 4	Thanks for the help. Looks like i'm stumped then. I am amazed someone hasn't made full 8 string MIDI gear. The wait continues.............................

08-02-2007, 07:34 PM	#5
technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 8,882 Real Name: Steve Main Seven: KxK Sii-7 Rig: Fargen -> Orange Thanked: 49	Yeah the problem is the 'standard' that everybody uses in the 13 pin interface is only designed to handle six strings... I don't even care about most of the stuff those systems can do, I just want midi out for all the strings I use to feed a laptop


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