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| ss.org Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Austria Posts: 10
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![]() | B-string tuned to A# - pickup & string question for clearer tone ? Hi everybody. Plz excuse my sucky English right away ![]() I got a ESP-M207 and the ESP 7-string Baritone SC607B. Now my music requires that I have to tune them down three more half steps, meaning I´m down at G#, C#, etc. with the low string. I especially bought the Baritone to get a bit of a more precise sound on the B-string, but it doesn´t really work out here. The stock EMGs were replaced with SD Invader (neck) and JB (bridge), which give an awesome, rich and full sound. The only problem is, that the B-string, when tuned down further, just sounds muddy. I´ve tried almost all strings that are out there and am currently (for the B-string) using the D´Addario 0,68 Bariton strings or the 0,70 GHS Zakk Wylde lo strings, but still this doesn´t reduce the mud on the sound when I´m playing fast palm mutings. So my question is if you know any hi-gain pickups that sound precise and clean when tuning that low and still playing fast palm muting stuff. I highly dislike the hollow sound of the EMGs (though I had no chance to test them at this tuning), but maybe they´re the only way out to get some precision, loosing tone though. Thanks Wops |
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| GeneticallyDifferent Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 3,971
Real Name: Tom Main Seven: Ibanez RG 7421 Rig: POD X3L & poweramp Thanked: 13
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Tuning down three half steps would actually put you at G#, C#, etc. Is your guitar set up properly? If the string height or pickup height is off, it won't sound right. If the Invader is too muddy, maybe move that JB into the bridge position and see if that's any better. I'm honestly not terribly experienced with Seymour Duncan 7-string pickups, but most people here like DiMarzio or EMG pickups. It's also quite possible that it's not the guitar, but that it's your rig that can't handle the low notes. Also, ![]() "Tom, you're like 1 part a serious dork, and 2 parts the most awesome fucking guy ever." - ![]() guitargeek.com style rig diagram Pics of my gear Virtual studio tech testing ground Last.FM |
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| Rokuban Taicho Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Munich; Germany Posts: 414
Real Name: Daniel Main Seven: C7 Hellraiser Rig: Engl Sovereign+ Cab Thanked: 2
![]() | Your problem is quite obvious imo. The Invader is probably one of the darkest, fattest but also muddyest pups seymour duncan has to offer, even in the sux string version and it's even worse on 7 strings imo. With a decent pickup you should be good to go. SD: JB should be the best for what you want Dimarzio: Evo 7 , D-Activator would be my picks for tuning that low |
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| ss.org Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Austria Posts: 10
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whoops, you´re right, G# it is. The Invader is in neck position, cuz I wasn´t satisfied with it and the JB at bridge. Set-up is allright, works out perfectly if the tuning does not go below B. Unfortunately not below that. | |
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| Junk and harlot man. ![]() Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: North of sweden Posts: 6,934
Real Name: Jonathan Main Seven: Schecter Omen Extreme Main ERG: Orfea 10-string Rig: Behringer Thanked: 334
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | That should be fine, Have you adjusted the truss rod, after tuning it to G# ? |
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| <3's Tsukasa ![]() Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 16,294
Real Name: Kagami Main Seven: ESP H-207 Rig: Randall RG75G2C Thanked: 186
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | The Dimarzio Evolution is supposed to be really clear, you could give that a whack if you wanted a new pickup. BUT, go to the hardware store and buy some 10/32 thread hex screws, take out the big lug screws in the invader and replace them with the hex screws, it should tighten up the sound a bit and will only cost you a few bucks. I'm pretty sure they are 10/32 but take the screw to the store to match it...as you live in Austria I don't know whether you will have the screws locally or not though as it's a standard size not metric. |
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