[newamerikangospel]

Oh, okay. I thought since you already had the 7 string hb105 (I think thats the number) in place with schecters it was going to be packaged up in that. Why aren't the 105s 7s available for retail? Is it a manufacturing thing with schecter? Do you actually make them (the are duncan designed, didn't know if they were produced by sd).

[Leon]

thanks for the insider perspective, Frank!

[D-EJ915]

Frank, the regular livewires were bigger than the pickups I had before (EMGs) and I had to do some routing of my cavities for them to fit, they barely fit in the pickup rings too. I think as long as you give us rings that fit them (and are tall enough) then they should be fine.

Guitar was my ESP LTD VB-200

[Cancer]

Originally Posted by frank falbo

Incidentally, I want to get your opinion on something: In designing the regular sized 7-string cover it's a VERY tight fit inside that cover. It's a lot like taking a standard humbucker and putting a chrome cover on it, which adds some thickness. So if you have a guitar with a really tight route, or there's globules of paint built up inside the route, you may have to Dremel some of the excess paint away. I tried a prototype cover in my Schecter and it fits fine, but it's tight. The paint inside my pickup cavity is pretty thin, and so I started to think what about those that have paint drips and sags in the cavities? They could be tighter. Fortunately that's not a routing issue. A little sandpaper or the Dremel with a sanding drum will clean that up right quick.

Eh, maybe I'm worrying about nothing, but I care about you guys and don't want anyone feeling disenfranchised if they have to sand paint out of their pickup cavity. The fact is, either we accept a "tight" standard 7-string, or no standard 7-string at all. Still, I wanted to get your feedback on it though...

Carvin DC7 owners (no personal experience btw) have had to deal with for some time now, and there are certain Ibanez 7's that have routes not shallow enough for passive Seymeour Duncans. Personally, my feeling is that, although it would be nice to be able to "drop and go?", a minor operation is still better than MAJOR operation that was the 707 size in a standard cavity. In addition, one would hope that eventually the standard size will take dominant role of the OEM pickup in a 7 strnig production guitar (why have two routes for passive and active if you don't have to????), thus making it a non-issue ....eventually.


* Cancer actually hopes that the 707 sizing will eventually be phased out EVERYWHERE in production 7 strings, as the realization of the pointlessness because obvious to guitar makers. Hey a dude can dream right?

BTW, I really appreciate that you bought this to the table. Very cool.

[ohio_eric]

Frank,

As long as SD is straight up with people about the Blackouts being a bit of a tight fit it will all be good. As long as you are honest about it no one has anything to bitch about.

[Ryan]

I have nothing to bitch about as long as i dont have to take a router to the front of my flame top S7.

[metalfiend666]

I'd much rather sand down a bit of paint that take a router to my guitar, risking untidy over-routing or worse still, wood chipping out.

[D-EJ915]

Originally Posted by metalfiend666

I'd much rather sand down a bit of paint that take a router to my guitar, risking untidy over-routing or worse still, wood chipping out.

use a sanding drum thingy on a dremel-type tool

[Cancer]

Hey Frank, any chance you could post pics of your Schecter with the Blackout 7 installed?

[frank falbo]

I'll post pics as soon as we get final covers approved, AND they are built up and installed. So far I've been installing prototype covers and checking the fit, the look, etc. Some are just empty covers that we made. We're still a ways off from anything official on these.

I figured you guys would understand, I've had to square off corners for EMG's and Bartolinis in the past, it's just a minor procedure as you all have said. But the corner of the Blackout 7 standard size is round like a regular humbucker. So the Dremel sanding drum is absolutely the most perfect tool because it just nestles right in there. It doesn't want to kick out, or slide one way or the other. We didn't want the cover to be squared off like an EMG because all of the direct mount Ibanez' have rounded corners. So it's going to look awesome in an RG7x21 for example, and the Carvins.