Dual Sound or coil-splitting?

ray_eggleton · 04-13-2007, 03:12 PM

I'm rewiring my Jackson DR7 with D Sonic (bridge) and Air Norton (neck) with 2 push/pull master volumes. So, Dual Sound or coil-splitting? What does dual sound actually do?

ohio_eric · 04-13-2007, 05:49 PM

By dual sound do you mean parallel?

darren · 04-13-2007, 06:11 PM

Yeah, could you please clarify what exactly you mean by "dual sound"?

D-EJ915 · 04-13-2007, 06:36 PM

I know the Dual Sound is the Super Distortion but comes with a switch to do a coil split, but wtf are you talking about?

darren · 04-13-2007, 06:37 PM

Actually, the DiMarzio Dual Sound is a Super Distortion with a series/parallel push/pull pot included.

ray_eggleton · 04-15-2007, 06:18 PM

in the wiring diagram for both the d sonic and air norton, it talks about dual sound. i believe it has something to do with parallel but i'm not quite sure. that's why i was asking u fellas.

ohio_eric · 04-15-2007, 06:56 PM

If it is parallel it will still be hum cancelling, lower output, brighter and clearer sounding than in series.

Split coil uses just one coil to simulate a the sound a single coil pickup. If a humbucker is split is loses it's humcancelling unless you split the other humbucker or use a single coil pickup at the same time.

RG1820X · 04-15-2007, 08:45 PM

Dual sound allows you to wire a two position double pole/double throw (DPDT) switch to allow for series or parallel pickup wiring. Push/pull pots have this type of switch. They only allow for two switching options (such as parallel/series or series/coil-cut). Here is a diagram with the connections, X-X means the switch is connected and O means there is no connection to that wiring tab:
Position 1:
X-X O
X-X O

Position 2:
O X-X
O X-X

On a three position (On-On-On) mini DPDT switch allows for series/coil-cut/parallel wiring at the same time. The switch itself connects something like this:
Position 1:
X-X O
X-X O

Position 2:
X-X O
O X-X

Position 3:
O X-X
O X-X

Beware that there is also a three position (on-off-on) DPDT switch. Make sure you get the correct one for your desired use. I strongly recommend Dimarzio switches to AllPart switches, as these are the only two that I have ever used. You get what you pay for and good switches are definitely worth the extra few dollars!!!!

I hope this helped you.

ray_eggleton · 04-16-2007, 03:57 PM

thank u rg1820x. u helped me decide that i want dual sound with the push/pull pots. u cleared up the confusion. thanks again.

04-13-2007, 03:12 PM	#1
ray_eggleton ss.org Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: houghton lake, mi Posts: 11 Main Seven: Jackson DR7 Rig: poop on a stick Thanked: 0	Dual Sound or coil-splitting? I'm rewiring my Jackson DR7 with D Sonic (bridge) and Air Norton (neck) with 2 push/pull master volumes. So, Dual Sound or coil-splitting? What does dual sound actually do?

04-13-2007, 05:49 PM	#2
ohio_eric He loves you Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,364 Main Seven: Schecter Jeff Loomis Sig Rig: Boss GT-8 Thanked: 180	By dual sound do you mean parallel? The only proof he needed for the existance of God was music. Kurt Vonnegut Jr. Without music, life would be a mistake. Friedrich Nietzsche

04-13-2007, 06:36 PM	#4
D-EJ915 <3's Tsukasa Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 16,895 Real Name: Kagami Main Seven: ESP MH-307 Rig: Randall RG75G2C Thanked: 206	I know the Dual Sound is the Super Distortion but comes with a switch to do a coil split, but wtf are you talking about? My Site: əBCAir

04-15-2007, 08:45 PM	#8
RG1820X ss.org Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7 Real Name: Stephen Main Seven: Ibanez UV777PBK Rig: 1976 Marshall/Line 6 Thanked: 0	Dual sound allows you to wire a two position double pole/double throw (DPDT) switch to allow for series or parallel pickup wiring. Push/pull pots have this type of switch. They only allow for two switching options (such as parallel/series or series/coil-cut). Here is a diagram with the connections, X-X means the switch is connected and O means there is no connection to that wiring tab: Position 1: X-X O X-X O Position 2: O X-X O X-X On a three position (On-On-On) mini DPDT switch allows for series/coil-cut/parallel wiring at the same time. The switch itself connects something like this: Position 1: X-X O X-X O Position 2: X-X O O X-X Position 3: O X-X O X-X Beware that there is also a three position (on-off-on) DPDT switch. Make sure you get the correct one for your desired use. I strongly recommend Dimarzio switches to AllPart switches, as these are the only two that I have ever used. You get what you pay for and good switches are definitely worth the extra few dollars!!!! I hope this helped you. Last edited by RG1820X; 04-15-2007 at 08:48 PM. Reason: Circuit Display Issue

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04-13-2007, 06:11 PM	#3
darren Mr. Negative Pants™ Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Greater Toronto Area, Canada Posts: 8,032 Main Seven: modded Dean EVO Special 7 Main ERG: Agile Intrepid Standard Rig: Mesa F-30 -> Thiele Thanked: 42	Yeah, could you please clarify what exactly you mean by "dual sound"?

04-13-2007, 06:37 PM	#5
darren Mr. Negative Pants™ Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Greater Toronto Area, Canada Posts: 8,032 Main Seven: modded Dean EVO Special 7 Main ERG: Agile Intrepid Standard Rig: Mesa F-30 -> Thiele Thanked: 42	Actually, the DiMarzio Dual Sound is a Super Distortion with a series/parallel push/pull pot included.

04-15-2007, 06:18 PM	#6
ray_eggleton ss.org Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: houghton lake, mi Posts: 11 Main Seven: Jackson DR7 Rig: poop on a stick Thanked: 0	in the wiring diagram for both the d sonic and air norton, it talks about dual sound. i believe it has something to do with parallel but i'm not quite sure. that's why i was asking u fellas.

04-15-2007, 06:56 PM	#7
ohio_eric He loves you Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,364 Main Seven: Schecter Jeff Loomis Sig Rig: Boss GT-8 Thanked: 180	If it is parallel it will still be hum cancelling, lower output, brighter and clearer sounding than in series. Split coil uses just one coil to simulate a the sound a single coil pickup. If a humbucker is split is loses it's humcancelling unless you split the other humbucker or use a single coil pickup at the same time.

04-16-2007, 03:57 PM	#9
ray_eggleton ss.org Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: houghton lake, mi Posts: 11 Main Seven: Jackson DR7 Rig: poop on a stick Thanked: 0	thank u rg1820x. u helped me decide that i want dual sound with the push/pull pots. u cleared up the confusion. thanks again.

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