Wiring questions/ What's your favorite PU config?

OzzyC · 04-02-2007, 12:03 AM

I might be purchasing an Air Nortion and DS7 for my RG1527 relatively soon, and when I do, I'm planning on also doing a complete wiring overhaul.

So far, I plan to use a diagram I'll hopefully get from Leon soon. It will use a 3 way blade and I'll use push-push pots for series-parallel on each PU. I'm open to other suggestions also.

So, first question, where can I get push-push pots for volume and tone?
Second, it's my understanding that you need a different type of pot for volume and tone, so which goes with which?
Thirdly, I think I've read somewhere that you're supposed to use a capacitor with either volume or tone, which one do you use it for, and what value?
Is ther anything else I should know? If so, any advice is welcome!

djpharoah · 04-02-2007, 12:22 AM

Forget tone, Get two push pull pots for coil splitting and dual volumes, that way you can go from soft to heavy in a flick of a switch.

I would go to guitarelectronics.com and get a schematic.

You can get your push-pull pots from Steward Mac, Universal jems.
Yes volume pots are different from tone pots. Make sure you get pots with a value of 500k.
You wire a capacity to both volume and tone. It exists to act like a high pass filter when the volume is low. So that when you lower the volume your high end doesnt just drop off the map.

OzzyC · 04-02-2007, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djpharoah

Forget tone, Get two push pull pots for coil splitting and dual volumes, that way you can go from soft to heavy in a flick of a switch.

I would go to guitarelectronics.com and get a schematic.

You can get your push-pull pots from Steward Mac, Universal jems.
Yes volume pots are different from tone pots. Make sure you get pots with a value of 500k.
You wire a capacity to both volume and tone. It exists to act like a high pass filter when the volume is low. So that when you lower the volume your high end doesnt just drop off the map.

I actually use my tone pot to some extent, it's staying. I'm not too interested in the configurations that site has to offer.

If you'll notice, I had asked for push-push, not push-pull.

So which is which? I'm just guessing, but linear taper= tone and audio taper= volume?

What size capacitor would I use for each?

djpharoah · 04-02-2007, 12:43 AM

Oh - hmm. Whats a push-push pot? I mean how do you reset it without pulling it?

Audio taper is volume. Just use the same size capacity from your original setup. Go to ibanez.com and get the wiring diagram for the 1527. In there it will tell you the exact specs.

ohio_eric · 04-02-2007, 12:44 AM

http://www.warmoth.com/hardware/part...potentiometers

Warmoth sells push-push pots.

OzzyC · 04-02-2007, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djpharoah

Oh - hmm. Whats a push-push pot? I mean how do you reset it without pulling it?

Audio taper is volume. Just use the same size capacity from your original setup. Go to ibanez.com and get the wiring diagram for the 1527. In there it will tell you the exact specs.

I haven't used then before, but I would assume it's like a pen that you press it once and it goes down, again, and it goes up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohio_eric

http://www.warmoth.com/hardware/part...potentiometers

Warmoth sells push-push pots.

I noticed that those pots don't specify audio or linear taper, so would I be correct in assuming that the capacitor size is what determines if it is a volume or tone?

TonyFlyingSquirrel · 04-02-2007, 02:39 AM

JPM CONFIG, BUT WITH NO TONE POT ON MY TFS6, THE RG7620 HAS THE SAME CONFIG, BUT I'M PUTTING IN A PUSH/PUSH POT IN THE TONE POSITION TO TURN ON THE LED'S.

OzzyC · 04-02-2007, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyFlyingSquirrel

JPM CONFIG, BUT WITH NO TONE POT ON MY TFS6, THE RG7620 HAS THE SAME CONFIG, BUT I'M PUTTING IN A PUSH/PUSH POT IN THE TONE POSITION TO TURN ON THE LED'S.

What's the TFS6 look like? (I assume it's somthing you built.)

TonyFlyingSquirrel · 04-02-2007, 11:57 AM

I ACTUALLY DID NOT BUILD IT, I JUST DESIGNED IT. IT'S THE RED GUITAR IN THE PHOTO SECTION.

AT THE TIME I HAD IT BUILT, I HAD JUST BEGAN A DIVORCE & WAS NOT EQUIPPED TO DO THE BUILD MYSELF.

I'D POST LINKS, BUT I'M DADGUMM TIRED FROM DOING A 10HOUR GRAVEYARD SHIFT SO I'M GOING HOME TO GO NITE-NITE.

Toshiro · 04-02-2007, 12:12 PM

Edit: Nevermind, wasn't thinking.

04-02-2007, 12:03 AM	#1
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djpharoah \m/ Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 4,946 Real Name: Mesh Thanked: 197	Forget tone, Get two push pull pots for coil splitting and dual volumes, that way you can go from soft to heavy in a flick of a switch. I would go to guitarelectronics.com and get a schematic. You can get your push-pull pots from Steward Mac, Universal jems. Yes volume pots are different from tone pots. Make sure you get pots with a value of 500k. You wire a capacity to both volume and tone. It exists to act like a high pass filter when the volume is low. So that when you lower the volume your high end doesnt just drop off the map.

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djpharoah \m/ Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 4,946 Real Name: Mesh Thanked: 197	Oh - hmm. Whats a push-push pot? I mean how do you reset it without pulling it? Audio taper is volume. Just use the same size capacity from your original setup. Go to ibanez.com and get the wiring diagram for the 1527. In there it will tell you the exact specs.

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TonyFlyingSquirrel Warmoth Sales Join Date: May 2006 Location: Puyallup, Washington: www.warmoth.com Posts: 1,231 Real Name: Flying Squirrel Main Seven: IBANEZ RG7620RB Rig: L6PXTL/TFS6/RG7620RB Thanked: 34	I ACTUALLY DID NOT BUILD IT, I JUST DESIGNED IT. IT'S THE RED GUITAR IN THE PHOTO SECTION. AT THE TIME I HAD IT BUILT, I HAD JUST BEGAN A DIVORCE & WAS NOT EQUIPPED TO DO THE BUILD MYSELF. I'D POST LINKS, BUT I'M DADGUMM TIRED FROM DOING A 10HOUR GRAVEYARD SHIFT SO I'M GOING HOME TO GO NITE-NITE.

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