Locking tuners?

drshock · 03-02-2007, 05:34 PM

I was wondering if anyone on here uses locking tuners with your floating bridge instead of a locking nut, and if so does it work better?

darren · 03-02-2007, 05:53 PM

My EBMM JP7 has a floating trem and locking Schaller tuners, and i think it works great. The key is to have a properly cut graphite or GraphTech nut so the strings don't bind there. Personally, i prefer it to a locking nut, as i HATE having to dig out tools when i need to change a string.

ohio_eric · 03-02-2007, 05:58 PM

I don't know if I'd want a Floyd Rose with locking tuners instead of a locking nut. But with a good two point trmolo like a Wilkinson, Hipshot or the one on the Petrucci model, locking tuners with a well cut graphite nut, like Darren said, will keep you in tune. Now if you want to do all sorts of Steve Vai divebombs and pull ups then get a Floyd with a locking nut. If you're more subtle in your trem use the other options are fine.

drshock · 03-02-2007, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darren

My EBMM JP7 has a floating trem and locking Schaller tuners, and i think it works great. The key is to have a properly cut graphite or GraphTech nut so the strings don't bind there. Personally, i prefer it to a locking nut, as i HATE having to dig out tools when i need to change a string.

Cool, I was thinking about it just because I hate stretching my strings, and also for what you mentioned about the tools.

Where would you recommend I get a new nut for it?

TonyFlyingSquirrel · 03-02-2007, 09:40 PM

Stretching your strings is pretty much inevitable anyways, no matter what type of bridge setup you're using.

But, as far as locking tuners & a Floyd go, play any of the Carvins with that setup, they play fine, & I believe there's a tad bit more sustain with this method as opposed to the locking nut. The key to success in this is as mentioned above, a well carved nut ala graph tech, etc... & a straight string path.

My TFS6 has an inverted inline headstock with a steep side angle ala Jackson with a locking nut. Obviously, this would never work well with locking tuners & no nut. For this reason, I've re-designed the headstock to accomplish the latter option.

IE:
The Current TFS6 Headstock with Floyd Locking Nut.

& the Newly Revised TFS6 & TFS7 Headstock with locking tuners & a trem nut.

drshock · 03-03-2007, 01:43 AM

i know theres more sustain becasue it adds weight to the headstock i jsut wanted to know if it would work really.

dpm · 03-03-2007, 03:36 AM

It's exactly as Darren, Eric and Tony said. Locking heads and a properly cut Graphtech nut is a very reliable combination, providing the string angles over the nut aren't too extreme. If you want to go nuts like Vai you really need a locking nut though.
Different string brands have different stretch characteristics, for example D'Addarios need far more stretching than Ernie Balls.

TonyFlyingSquirrel · 03-03-2007, 10:01 AM

Word.

03-02-2007, 05:34 PM	#1
drshock Street-good guy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: rochester ny Posts: 504 Real Name: aaron Main Seven: modded 7620 and C-7 BJ Rig: Randall Half Stack Thanked: 2	Locking tuners? I was wondering if anyone on here uses locking tuners with your floating bridge instead of a locking nut, and if so does it work better? Do you know my name? Do you know my NUMBER?

03-02-2007, 05:58 PM	#3
ohio_eric He loves you Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,364 Main Seven: Schecter Jeff Loomis Sig Rig: Boss GT-8 Thanked: 180	I don't know if I'd want a Floyd Rose with locking tuners instead of a locking nut. But with a good two point trmolo like a Wilkinson, Hipshot or the one on the Petrucci model, locking tuners with a well cut graphite nut, like Darren said, will keep you in tune. Now if you want to do all sorts of Steve Vai divebombs and pull ups then get a Floyd with a locking nut. If you're more subtle in your trem use the other options are fine. The only proof he needed for the existance of God was music. Kurt Vonnegut Jr. Without music, life would be a mistake. Friedrich Nietzsche

03-02-2007, 09:40 PM	#5
TonyFlyingSquirrel Warmoth Sales Join Date: May 2006 Location: Puyallup, Washington: www.warmoth.com Posts: 1,231 Real Name: Flying Squirrel Main Seven: IBANEZ RG7620RB Rig: L6PXTL/TFS6/RG7620RB Thanked: 34	Stretching your strings is pretty much inevitable anyways, no matter what type of bridge setup you're using. But, as far as locking tuners & a Floyd go, play any of the Carvins with that setup, they play fine, & I believe there's a tad bit more sustain with this method as opposed to the locking nut. The key to success in this is as mentioned above, a well carved nut ala graph tech, etc... & a straight string path. My TFS6 has an inverted inline headstock with a steep side angle ala Jackson with a locking nut. Obviously, this would never work well with locking tuners & no nut. For this reason, I've re-designed the headstock to accomplish the latter option. IE: The Current TFS6 Headstock with Floyd Locking Nut. & the Newly Revised TFS6 & TFS7 Headstock with locking tuners & a trem nut. WWW.MYSPACE.COM/TONYFLYINGSQUIRRELMUSIC http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page...?bandID=268162 Please direct all Warmoth related inquiries directly to Warmoth, here's that link; http://www.warmoth.com/customerservice/customer.cfm

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darren Mr. Negative Pants™ Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Greater Toronto Area, Canada Posts: 8,032 Main Seven: modded Dean EVO Special 7 Main ERG: Agile Intrepid Standard Rig: Mesa F-30 -> Thiele Thanked: 42	My EBMM JP7 has a floating trem and locking Schaller tuners, and i think it works great. The key is to have a properly cut graphite or GraphTech nut so the strings don't bind there. Personally, i prefer it to a locking nut, as i HATE having to dig out tools when i need to change a string.

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drshock Street-good guy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: rochester ny Posts: 504 Real Name: aaron Main Seven: modded 7620 and C-7 BJ Rig: Randall Half Stack Thanked: 2	i know theres more sustain becasue it adds weight to the headstock i jsut wanted to know if it would work really.

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