How to had grit to a clean channel.

DBDbadreligion · 02-26-2007, 11:20 PM

ok i have a crate xt120r, i want to make the clean channel more gritty and beefy. the only problem is the clean channel doesnt have a gain knob on it.
i have a dod fx40b eq pedal but i cant figure out how to move everything around on that. i have a ds-1 for my main distortion. i can make the distortion sound good but the clean channel is to "poppy" if you know what i mean.

please help,

thanks,

ibzrg1570 · 02-27-2007, 12:20 AM

If you can't get a dirtier tone from the clean channel, maybe you could try cleaning up your distortion channel. Then turn down the distortion on the DS1 a little. I did this for a while and it worked out fine.

DBDbadreligion · 02-27-2007, 06:25 AM

ok yeah that's already what i trying bight now. im using the eq as a booster on the dirtier channel as well.

nitelightboy · 02-27-2007, 11:02 AM

Try using a Tube Screamer or similar overdrive pedal on the clean. It'll add some nice grit while keeping it clear enough so notes are still articulate. Then you can have a few sounds from your amp.

Drew · 02-27-2007, 11:52 AM

Um, you're going to hate me...

...but really, if you want a slightly "gritty" clean tone, you want a tube amp beginning to break up.

Barring that, a clean channel with a gain knob - some solid state stuff, particularly Tech-21, does this quite well.

DBDbadreligion · 02-27-2007, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew

Um, you're going to hate me...

...but really, if you want a slightly "gritty" clean tone, you want a tube amp beginning to break up.

Barring that, a clean channel with a gain knob - some solid state stuff, particularly Tech-21, does this quite well.

yeah, tube amps are expensive and i dont have any money.
i may save up for a simpleboss overdrive pedal, keep that at a low volume ust to add some gain. then have the distortion and eq for lead.

Leon · 02-27-2007, 05:48 PM

overdrive pedals do their best work on tubes. when you overdrive a SS amp, you can get some pretty ice-picky squealing. i'd say, if you don't have the dough for a new amp, go for a fuzz pedal, setting the fuzz option very low.

DBDbadreligion · 02-27-2007, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon

overdrive pedals do their best work on tubes. when you overdrive a SS amp, you can get some pretty ice-picky squealing. i'd say, if you don't have the dough for a new amp, go for a fuzz pedal, setting the fuzz option very low.

ive got a noise supressor pedal, it gets out all that squeal from my ds-1.

Metal Ken · 02-27-2007, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew

Um, you're going to hate me...

...but really, if you want a slightly "gritty" clean tone, you want a tube amp beginning to break up.

Barring that, a clean channel with a gain knob - some solid state stuff, particularly Tech-21, does this quite well.

Yeah, thats pretty much the only way to get that sound -- authentically, anyway.

zimbloth · 02-27-2007, 10:22 PM

Yeah as long as it's a real tube amp, not a Krank or anything. Not all tube amps are expensive btw man. You can get a Mesa Studio .22+ which is one of the best amps in existence for $400. Sell your Crate & some semen and you're in business

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DBDbadreligion ss.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 368 Real Name: Nick Main Seven: Ibanez RG7620BK Rig: Crate XT120R Thanked: 0	How to add grit to a clean channel. ok i have a crate xt120r, i want to make the clean channel more gritty and beefy. the only problem is the clean channel doesnt have a gain knob on it. i have a dod fx40b eq pedal but i cant figure out how to move everything around on that. i have a ds-1 for my main distortion. i can make the distortion sound good but the clean channel is to "poppy" if you know what i mean. please help, thanks, www.myspace.com/nicklandt My Guitars: (Black) 1989 Charvel Model 3 - (Black) Ibanez RG7620 My Amp /Effects: Crate xt120R > Dunlop Original Crybaby > Boss DS-1 > DOD FX40B EQ > Boss TR-2 > Boss DD-3 > Digi-Tech Whammy Pedal > (Whammy Dry Out)Boss TU-2 > Rocktron Hush Pedal.

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nitelightboy I poop in shoes. Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ft Liquordale, FL Posts: 4,282 Real Name: Joe Main Seven: LTD SC-607 Rig: Madison Divinity Thanked: 18	Try using a Tube Screamer or similar overdrive pedal on the clean. It'll add some nice grit while keeping it clear enough so notes are still articulate. Then you can have a few sounds from your amp. I am the mask you wear.

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Leon {##[====:::. • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Ohio Crew Posts: 12,474 Main Seven: RG7620 of Doom Rig: Mesa / Sovtek Thanked: 81	overdrive pedals do their best work on tubes. when you overdrive a SS amp, you can get some pretty ice-picky squealing. i'd say, if you don't have the dough for a new amp, go for a fuzz pedal, setting the fuzz option very low. I have a radical idea. The door swings both ways, we could reverse the particle flow through the gate. We'll cross the streams.

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ibzrg1570 ??? Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,193 Real Name: Derek Main Seven: No more Rig: I need money Thanked: 4	If you can't get a dirtier tone from the clean channel, maybe you could try cleaning up your distortion channel. Then turn down the distortion on the DS1 a little. I did this for a while and it worked out fine.

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DBDbadreligion ss.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 368 Real Name: Nick Main Seven: Ibanez RG7620BK Rig: Crate XT120R Thanked: 0	ok yeah that's already what i trying bight now. im using the eq as a booster on the dirtier channel as well.

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zimbloth Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 11,041 Real Name: Nick Main Seven: Rico Jr Customs Main ERG: Ibanez 8 Rig: VHT Pittbull UL Thanked: 59	Yeah as long as it's a real tube amp, not a Krank or anything. Not all tube amps are expensive btw man. You can get a Mesa Studio .22+ which is one of the best amps in existence for $400. Sell your Crate & some semen and you're in business

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