Tone question (Not Djent dudes)

Ninjahat · 07-17-2012, 02:23 AM

Okay so guys, I'd like some reccomends as to what to get for the tone I have in mind.

I know I want to run Axe as a preamp through a tube, but I'd like some help as to what Pickups/Amp to get!

I'd like to get a similar clean tone to Charlies bluesy tone here. Fat, jazzy, almost organ-esque. Just without the overdrive/distortion.

And I'd like a distorted tone similar to Chon's but carrying over the same Jazzy fatness of Charlies tone.

Your help is much appreciated bros!

wakjob · 07-17-2012, 04:23 AM

The Charlie Hunter clip sounds to my ears like a single coil or P90.

The Chon clip... I was thinking Dimarzio PAF PRO or Air Classic. Almost Paul Gilbert-ish.

But I think the Axe, with enough time/tweaking, you should be able to get close with just about any low-medium output PU's.

Have you any info on what they use? That Chon is pretty cool!

wakjob · 07-17-2012, 04:33 AM

Well hell, there's play through vids all over You Tube.

They seems to like Ibanez guitars. So it stands to reason that a Dimarzio of some sort is in order.

Ninjahat · 07-17-2012, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakjob

Well hell, there's play through vids all over You Tube.

They seems to like Ibanez guitars. So it stands to reason that a Dimarzio of some sort is in order.

I know Charlie uses bartolinis, and Yeah Chon uses dimarzios. Thanks for the help btw dude, but I was looking for something more specific.

EtherealEntity · 07-17-2012, 06:10 AM

I'd love to know how to get those Chon tones. I can't seem to use low gain in that context without it just sounding a weak mess..And I don't mean technique wise.

celticelk · 07-17-2012, 08:44 AM

Sounds to me like you want a good vintage-output humbucker, maybe splittable for tonal options, with a Fender Twin-ish amp sound and a good distortion pedal. wakjob's suggestion of a Paul Gilbert-type DiMarzio seems pretty good to these ears.

wakjob · 07-17-2012, 04:00 PM

Looks like they commented on one of their vids saying they used Peavey vypyr 30's... at least for the videos.

wakjob · 07-17-2012, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtherealEntity

I'd love to know how to get those Chon tones. I can't seem to use low gain in that context without it just sounding a weak mess..And I don't mean technique wise.

Compression!!!

Richard Irons · 07-19-2012, 05:40 PM

Hi there. I'd agree with the assessments above - you're probably looking for a vintage to medium output pickup here. The SD pickups for that would be the 59, the Alnico II Pro, maybe the Pearly Gates.

I'd definitely get four-conductor wiring as you may find that for some of the "jazzy" tones you're after, you might like to try wiring the coils in parallel rather than in series. You get a bit of a drop in output, and somewhere between a single-coil and humbucker tone.

The Reverend · 07-19-2012, 06:16 PM

As far as Chon tones go, I've been able to get a similar tone with my Blackouts (!!) by rolling down the tone a bit, and the volume on the guitar end, and lowering the gain while using a compressor to keep sustain and volume. They have a lot of picking dynamics that I can't quite get because of my active pups, though.

bob123 · 07-19-2012, 07:05 PM

PAF PRO, super distortion, Evo2 will all get you there...

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07-17-2012, 02:23 AM	#1
Ninjahat SS.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: ASTRAYA! Posts: 303 Thanked: 6 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Tone question (Not Djent dudes) Okay so guys, I'd like some reccomends as to what to get for the tone I have in mind. I know I want to run Axe as a preamp through a tube, but I'd like some help as to what Pickups/Amp to get! I'd like to get a similar clean tone to Charlies bluesy tone here. Fat, jazzy, almost organ-esque. Just without the overdrive/distortion. And I'd like a distorted tone similar to Chon's but carrying over the same Jazzy fatness of Charlies tone. Your help is much appreciated bros!

07-17-2012, 06:10 AM	#5
EtherealEntity T=UWx(2xLxF)^2/386.4 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Southend-on-Sea, Essex, U.K Posts: 8,267 Thanked: 75 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I'd love to know how to get those Chon tones. I can't seem to use low gain in that context without it just sounding a weak mess..And I don't mean technique wise. The Reverend likes this.

07-17-2012, 08:44 AM	#6
celticelk Rogue intellectual Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,682 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Sounds to me like you want a good vintage-output humbucker, maybe splittable for tonal options, with a Fender Twin-ish amp sound and a good distortion pedal. wakjob's suggestion of a Paul Gilbert-type DiMarzio seems pretty good to these ears. "There's only one real freedom in music: freedom from the tyranny of trying to sound good." -Kenny Werner "Whatever technique you have on your instrument at any given time is always good enough to say something. If you can't find the thing to say, that's what you've got to work on." -David Torn "Don't be afraid to let go of the things you know. Defy your weaker, safer self. Create. Make music." -Sonny Sharrock "Do your thing. Follow your heart." -David Fiuczynski

07-19-2012, 05:40 PM	#9
Richard Irons SD Tone Expert Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: London UK Posts: 25 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hi there. I'd agree with the assessments above - you're probably looking for a vintage to medium output pickup here. The SD pickups for that would be the 59, the Alnico II Pro, maybe the Pearly Gates. I'd definitely get four-conductor wiring as you may find that for some of the "jazzy" tones you're after, you might like to try wiring the coils in parallel rather than in series. You get a bit of a drop in output, and somewhere between a single-coil and humbucker tone. -- Seymour Duncan Tone Expert --

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07-17-2012, 04:23 AM	#2
wakjob SS.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: CNY Posts: 1,050 Thanked: 9 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The Charlie Hunter clip sounds to my ears like a single coil or P90. The Chon clip... I was thinking Dimarzio PAF PRO or Air Classic. Almost Paul Gilbert-ish. But I think the Axe, with enough time/tweaking, you should be able to get close with just about any low-medium output PU's. Have you any info on what they use? That Chon is pretty cool!

07-17-2012, 04:33 AM	#3
wakjob SS.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: CNY Posts: 1,050 Thanked: 9 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well hell, there's play through vids all over You Tube. They seems to like Ibanez guitars. So it stands to reason that a Dimarzio of some sort is in order.

07-17-2012, 04:00 PM	#7
wakjob SS.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: CNY Posts: 1,050 Thanked: 9 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Looks like they commented on one of their vids saying they used Peavey vypyr 30's... at least for the videos.

07-19-2012, 06:16 PM	#10
The Reverend fucking motherfucker Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,353 Thanked: 8 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	As far as Chon tones go, I've been able to get a similar tone with my Blackouts (!!) by rolling down the tone a bit, and the volume on the guitar end, and lowering the gain while using a compressor to keep sustain and volume. They have a lot of picking dynamics that I can't quite get because of my active pups, though. If you're going to 'like' my posts, give me some rep instead. "i just laughed at my own reflection, not sure if ugly or drunk" -Murmel

07-19-2012, 07:05 PM	#11
bob123 Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,282 Thanked: 48 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	PAF PRO, super distortion, Evo2 will all get you there...

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