Dimarzio Evolution 7 "problem"

Moo · 04-10-2012, 10:05 AM

Hey guys,
I installed a Dimarzio Evo 7 in my Schecter Jeff Loomis(as a bridge PU and the dimarzio blaze as a neck pu) a couple months ago because I didn't like the sound of the EMGs because they sounded to harsh when it came to soloing and stuff like that.
After several months i realized that those Evos aren't really "agressive"-sounding or.. well.. at least not enough for my taste.
That's when I also started thinking about changing them also i was quite satisfied with the lead sound. I
spent the last week of my holidays in a studio and even the sound engineer noticed that there's some "agressiveness" missing when listening to the guitar sound itself, which he blamed my amp for (i'm playing a ENGL savage 120 which doesn't seem to have that much "bass"/"balls" - but nonetheless I like the distortion a lot)

Is there any bridge PU you could recomend me that gives me clarity and at the same time enough thickness/bass for a nice rhytm sound for heavier metal. (which has a neck that pu gives me a clear and "unmuddy" sound? I hate playing solos with a neck pu that obviously has a lack of clearity and just sounds like a muddy something)
I recently thought about giving BKP a try?

shanejohnson02 · 04-10-2012, 03:37 PM

wait wait wait...you're playing a loomis with an evolution into a savage...and it's not aggressive enough?

Moo · 04-10-2012, 04:19 PM

well... there's a lot of bass missing that lets the whole thing sound ... weak (?)

Choop · 04-10-2012, 04:37 PM

The evo is a really mids-heavy pickup. I didn't even really like it all that much when I played it through my dual recto. If you want a more punchy sound in the lows there are a lot of options really, you say you just want some more bass/balls but also a nice lead tone? As far as dimarzio goes I'd recommend the Crunchlab, or even a blaze custom (which would likely have the sound you want. It's got the mids but more bassy growl than I thought the evo didn't have).

Konfyouzd · 04-10-2012, 04:38 PM

Blaze Custom

Levi79 · 04-10-2012, 05:18 PM

You sound like the perfect candidate for a BKP Warpig. Or I found the Aftermath to be quite bassy.

Dead Undead · 04-10-2012, 05:37 PM

I can see that the Evo doesn't seem "agressive" enough, especially in a guitar like that. Whenever I've used Evos in guitars with brighter woods like ash and alder and maple, they seemed kinda wimpy and thin. They kick major ass in darker/warmer woods though. I agree on the Blaze suggestion, or maybe a D-Sonic.

Konfyouzd · 04-10-2012, 05:38 PM

+1 on the D-Sonic

shanejohnson02 · 04-10-2012, 09:37 PM

I guess what threw me off was the whole combination. Bright guitar + mid/bright pickup + an amp that's widely regarded to be pretty aggressive.

I only really have experience with dimarzios, and I would imagine the Blaze Custom, D-Sonic, or Crunch Lab would sound fine. I would also suggest dialing back the gain to get more of the guitar's voice coming through.

AngstRiddenDreams · 04-10-2012, 10:00 PM

Change the pots?

VBCheeseGrater · 04-10-2012, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngstRiddenDreams

Change the pots?

here's a good thread on pots and how they affect your tone LINK

TonyFlyingSquirrel · 04-11-2012, 09:51 AM

I've had great results on my RG7620 using the EVO-7 in the bridge and the Blaze neck.

The Evo's are fairly flat with a slight mid-notch.

The Engle's can be mid heavy & lack some low end if you set everything flat.
You may wish to start out with a flat amp setting, then try cutting frequencies rather than adding. If you need more low end, try cutting some mids and/or highs as adding will just add gain, unless gain is what you need.

I'm always leary of adding more gain for recording as it just sucks clarity.

Moo · 04-11-2012, 11:34 AM

thank you

yeah maybe its just the combination of the three that makes it sound that way...

yesterday I decided to write an e-mail to BKP and they suggested a set of Nailbombs.
Does anyone have any experience with a guitar with similar wood and that pickup?

...and I'll definately try to check out reviews of the D-sonic

asher · 04-11-2012, 12:10 PM

I threw an Evo in the bridge of my old 7421. I ultimately swapped it for a D-Sonic and was much, much happier with the sound. I liked the basic character of the high registers with the Evo - sounded kinda screamy - but got too bright fairly easily. I could never get the low end to have enough oomph ever though, it just wasn't there.

Konfyouzd · 04-11-2012, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moo

...and I'll definately try to check out reviews of the D-sonic

Blaze Custom is slightly lower output than the Evo and has a ton of meat/grind to it.

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04-10-2012, 10:05 AM	#1
Moo ss.org Regular Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 22 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Dimarzio Evolution 7 "problem" Hey guys, I installed a Dimarzio Evo 7 in my Schecter Jeff Loomis(as a bridge PU and the dimarzio blaze as a neck pu) a couple months ago because I didn't like the sound of the EMGs because they sounded to harsh when it came to soloing and stuff like that. After several months i realized that those Evos aren't really "agressive"-sounding or.. well.. at least not enough for my taste. That's when I also started thinking about changing them also i was quite satisfied with the lead sound. I spent the last week of my holidays in a studio and even the sound engineer noticed that there's some "agressiveness" missing when listening to the guitar sound itself, which he blamed my amp for (i'm playing a ENGL savage 120 which doesn't seem to have that much "bass"/"balls" - but nonetheless I like the distortion a lot) Is there any bridge PU you could recomend me that gives me clarity and at the same time enough thickness/bass for a nice rhytm sound for heavier metal. (which has a neck that pu gives me a clear and "unmuddy" sound? I hate playing solos with a neck pu that obviously has a lack of clearity and just sounds like a muddy something) I recently thought about giving BKP a try?

04-10-2012, 04:38 PM	#5
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04-10-2012, 05:37 PM	#7
Dead Undead Thundercrafter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Georgia Posts: 2,744 Thanked: 15 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I can see that the Evo doesn't seem "agressive" enough, especially in a guitar like that. Whenever I've used Evos in guitars with brighter woods like ash and alder and maple, they seemed kinda wimpy and thin. They kick major ass in darker/warmer woods though. I agree on the Blaze suggestion, or maybe a D-Sonic. ☭

04-10-2012, 05:38 PM	#8
Konfyouzd Dread-I Master Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mars Posts: 15,665 Thanked: 191 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	+1 on the D-Sonic "... and on either side of the river was the tree of life. The leaves of this tree were for the healing of nations." "He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle and the herb for the service of man." "Lifes too short to hate Floyd Roses."

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04-10-2012, 03:37 PM	#2
shanejohnson02 Hammer of the Gods Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Texarkana, TX Posts: 520 Thanked: 11 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wait wait wait...you're playing a loomis with an evolution into a savage...and it's not aggressive enough?

04-10-2012, 04:19 PM	#3
Moo ss.org Regular Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 22 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well... there's a lot of bass missing that lets the whole thing sound ... weak (?)

04-10-2012, 04:37 PM	#4
Choop Guitar Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 490 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 9 reviews	The evo is a really mids-heavy pickup. I didn't even really like it all that much when I played it through my dual recto. If you want a more punchy sound in the lows there are a lot of options really, you say you just want some more bass/balls but also a nice lead tone? As far as dimarzio goes I'd recommend the Crunchlab, or even a blaze custom (which would likely have the sound you want. It's got the mids but more bassy growl than I thought the evo didn't have).

04-10-2012, 05:18 PM	#6
Levi79 SS.org Regular Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Alberta Posts: 1,679 Thanked: 22 Feedback Score: 30 reviews	You sound like the perfect candidate for a BKP Warpig. Or I found the Aftermath to be quite bassy.

04-10-2012, 09:37 PM	#9
shanejohnson02 Hammer of the Gods Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Texarkana, TX Posts: 520 Thanked: 11 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I guess what threw me off was the whole combination. Bright guitar + mid/bright pickup + an amp that's widely regarded to be pretty aggressive. I only really have experience with dimarzios, and I would imagine the Blaze Custom, D-Sonic, or Crunch Lab would sound fine. I would also suggest dialing back the gain to get more of the guitar's voice coming through.

04-10-2012, 10:00 PM	#10
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04-11-2012, 09:51 AM	#12
TonyFlyingSquirrel Cherokee Warrior Join Date: May 2006 Location: Federal Way, Washington Posts: 1,872 Thanked: 61 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I've had great results on my RG7620 using the EVO-7 in the bridge and the Blaze neck. The Evo's are fairly flat with a slight mid-notch. The Engle's can be mid heavy & lack some low end if you set everything flat. You may wish to start out with a flat amp setting, then try cutting frequencies rather than adding. If you need more low end, try cutting some mids and/or highs as adding will just add gain, unless gain is what you need. I'm always leary of adding more gain for recording as it just sucks clarity. Konfyouzd and Angus Clark like this. WWW.MYSPACE.COM/TONYFLYINGSQUIRRELMUSIC http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page...?bandID=268162 Seven Strings to rule them all, Seven Strings to find them, Seven Strings to bring them all and in the music bind them.

04-11-2012, 11:34 AM	#13
Moo ss.org Regular Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 22 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thank you yeah maybe its just the combination of the three that makes it sound that way... yesterday I decided to write an e-mail to BKP and they suggested a set of Nailbombs. Does anyone have any experience with a guitar with similar wood and that pickup? ...and I'll definately try to check out reviews of the D-sonic

04-11-2012, 12:10 PM	#14
asher Pak Chooie Unf Join Date: May 2010 Location: Charlottesville, VA/Oakland, CA Posts: 1,351 Thanked: 15 Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I threw an Evo in the bridge of my old 7421. I ultimately swapped it for a D-Sonic and was much, much happier with the sound. I liked the basic character of the high registers with the Evo - sounded kinda screamy - but got too bright fairly easily. I could never get the low end to have enough oomph ever though, it just wasn't there.

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