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Unread 09-15-2011, 04:52 AM   #1
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How to eliminate 7th string fret buzz?

I've recently change my 7th string from 052 to 059. Cause of that the string buzzez a little, my question is how to eliminate the minor fret buzz? My axe are s7320 with ZR tremolo. Thanks!
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Unread 09-15-2011, 07:39 AM   #2
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i'm thinking of fixing it myself, time for me to learn more of the guitar . So i need to adjust the trust rod? what else?
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Buzz might come from :

- neck tilted the wrong way => truss rod

- string vibrating against the frets => bridge height and/or loose strings.

If it was the bridge height, I think you'd have buzz on several strings and not only the last one, so I guess your neck is tilted. Do you know how to adjust your truss rod ?
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if it's only the 7th string that's buzzing you've got one saddle that's a bit lower than the others. you may not be able to see it but a thicker gauge string will sit a bit lower from what i've seen. i don't know if the string kind of crimps at the bridge or whatever, but they tend to get a little buzzy. since you don't have individual saddle height adjustments on an edge (or do you? im not familiar with the newer ones) you'll need to raise your bridge height on the low B side a smidge.
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yeah, i've change from 9-54 gauge to a 10-59. And only the 7th string buzz..
Mine is ZR trem, is it possible to adjust only certain string height with this trem? i've only gotten the guitar for a few month (it's my 1st experience with floating trem) i have no experience in adjusting truss rod nagash, is it neccesary?
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i'm not sure how the ZR trems operate. i am used to the original edge's and the lo pro models. they do not have individual string height adjustments.
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like careboy said, better check the saddles first.

otherwise, you can do like me : take an allen wrench and go suicidal. what i had was this : buzz on the whole fretboard for the lower strings, and my two highest strings were touching the frets. I twisted the wrench towards the higher strings and at some point I got a good setup.

It's a bit risky if you don't know how to operate, as I said I went suicidal on this one. Just don't turn the wrench like crazy, go for small adjustments and see what it does. If you do only small twists and check every time, there's no danger.

If you're too scared of damaging your guitar, go to a nice tech and watch him do it, or look for it on youtube. I did it by myself and it worked out fine, so you can do it too
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do i need to unstring the guitar/ loosen or just adjust it straight away?
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Something i've noticed about 7-strings: Because the neck is wider, you need to be more careful and accurate when adjusting the neck so that there is no fret buzz or anything else. For me, the low B string was usually too high when i adjusted the neck. That was with my ibby RG1527 though, with the K7, i've had no problems.

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just loosen the middle strings so you have access to the truss rod, screw around and retune
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First of all, I would definitely not listen to Nagash in the respect of just screwing around with the truss rod. Press down on the first fret and the last fret of your neck. You should see a small gap around the 7-9 frets. If you don't see a gap you need to loosen your truss rod. If you see a large gap, you need to tighten it. I wouldn't turn more than a quarter turn at a time before rechecking. The buzz is most likely from switching to a larger string, which will need a larger gap between the string and frets so it doesn't buzz. Is the string buzzing at the first fret? the whole neck? Does it only do it when you pick hard? I'm literally amazed we jumped from fret buzz straight to winging it with the truss rod.
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First of all, I would definitely not listen to Nagash in the respect of just screwing around with the truss rod. Press down on the first fret and the last fret of your neck. You should see a small gap around the 7-9 frets. If you don't see a gap you need to loosen your truss rod. If you see a large gap, you need to tighten it. I wouldn't turn more than a quarter turn at a time before rechecking. The buzz is most likely from switching to a larger string, which will need a larger gap between the string and frets so it doesn't buzz. Is the string buzzing at the first fret? the whole neck? Does it only do it when you pick hard? I'm literally amazed we jumped from fret buzz straight to winging it with the truss rod.

Anyway I know how it works, I just suck at explaining this in English.
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If only the B is buzzing, you can shim the saddle on your trem. That is probably the best route, although it will screw a bit with string radius. You can also raise that side of the bridge entirely, but then you effect other strings too. Make sure the string is slack before you try to loosen a sadle though.
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The buzz is most likely from switching to a larger string
Yes, my 7th string start to buzz after i changed it to a 59 gauge string. And had it dropped to G#. Pardon me but i fail to mention this earlier, i've dropped all the string tuning to halfstep down from standard tuning, the low B is dropped to G#.

The buzz occur on the lowest string almost on any fret when i pick it hard, if i pick it real light it wouldn't buzz.

So i really need to adjust the truss rod then? Should i loosen all the string first?

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No, if you're buzzing everywhere I wouldn't adjust the truss rod. Does the strong feel loose at all?
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It buzzez only on 7th string almost on any fret if i pick it hard. The string does feel a bit loose since i've dropped it from B to G#
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It sounds to me that you need more string tension because the buzz if the string vibrating and banging against the frets. More string tension is gained from using an even larger string.

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Honestly, on a 25.5" scale guitar.. I don't think a 59 is realistically enough to get decent tension on a G#.. I have a 64 on my 007 (also a 25.5") and it feels pretty decent. I don't play down to G# but it works ok for A/drop A.
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Trying another string is another cheap idea. I use a 63 in B standard but I think you could probably get away with it in G#. Personally, I like my low strings to have a bit of tension so I'd go with something a little thicker. Check out Strings, Instrument Strings, Music Strings for Guitar, Bass, Mandolin, Fiddle and More for singles.
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adjust the truss rod to adjust the neck alignment.

There should youtube guides, some are available on the official Ibanez forums - by some dude that goes by the username optimus_prime or something.

Also you're getting fret buzz because you have a thicker string that is more likely to hit a fret while its vibrating. You may also have to adjust the action a tad to accomodate for this.

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Hi.

Here is what I follow for all tedious repairs @ ESP.

ALWAYS make sure the neck is straight before you make any adjustments.
Next, adjust your action at the bridge to about 4/64ths (as a good starting point).
Check height at nut, file down or shim/raise to taste.
Check all frets chromatically.
Play through an amp.. Checking for buzz without an amp you will hear more.
Also EMPHASIZING the buzz, plucking the string really hard will will result in more buzz.
There is a HUGE difference between buzz and sizzle.
Buzz is inevitable on certain instruments/tunings. Some guitars/basses will be a little more "sizzley" than others.
If you have a buzz that causes the note to die out quickly (given all parameters mentioned below are on point), Then you will need to level and dress the frets. Hope this helps!
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