[Leon]

with the success of my XV500 wiring, i want to rewire my RG7621 to my own specs. the biggest thing i want to change is simply the selector switch. i'm begining to hate the 5 way, now that i've got a simple 3 way toggle. besides, i really only use 2 (sometimes 3) positions on it. neck in series and bridge in series (sometimes bridge in parallel). here's what i'd like to do with a push/pull pot and a new 3 way blade switch:

push/pull pushed:

1. bridge in series
2. off
3. neck in series

push/pull pulled:

1. bridge in parallel
2. off
3. neck in parallel

also, i'm not a fan of the combined sound of two humbuckers (as i made evident in my XV500 wiring thread, where the middle position is a coil-tapped neck HB). hence the "off"s . in my research, i did find a 4 way switch, and i suppose i could wire up a 5 way super switch for series connections at 1 and 5, parallels at 2 and 4, and off at 3, but i think a 3 way with a push/pull would be more useable. it's just easier to sorta "throw" a switch into one of three positions on the fly, rather than trying to hit one of the middle 3 positions.

though, switching to a new position, THEN hitting up a push/pull pot may be worse, i think i'd rather do it that way . plus, thinking about output levels, if i ever use a parallel HB, i'll probably want to switch to the other parallel, so that the level doesn't jump.

thoughts? ideas? i'm hitting the drawing board tuesday, probably, as my tomorrow is pretty loaded.

[giannifive]

That layout you have sketched seems cool. I kind of like the idea of leaving the middle position off, so you have a kill switch. And as you said, I'm sure you won't often find yourself having to switch the selector *and* the push/pull.

Myself, I like the Ibanez H-H 5-way, with the exception of the middle position (both hums). I never use it for anything. I'd rather have the following:

1: neck in series
2: neck in parallel
3: one coil of neck
4: inner coil of neck and inner coil or bridge
5: bridge in parallel

Can you tell I love my strat sounds? I'm sure you could do this with a super switch, but I haven't pursued it any further than dreaming it up.

[metalfiend666]

Why not have the middle position as your neck hum split, like you did on the XV500? If you want a killswitch wiring one in elsewhere seems more logical that having it as the middle position.

[The Dark Wolf]

Man, I adore the middle pos. (2 hums in series) for cleans. It's so dynamic and rich, with loud, clean output. At least on my 2027. Even though the 2 and 4 pos. are more 'classic' clean, the middle pos. 3 has that sweet PRS-type clean sound.

Anyrate, sounds cool Leon.

[JPMDan]

you can set the middle position to be inner coils like on the JPM's you might like that.

[Leon]

James and Dan, i'd love to have those positions available in the middle spot, but i can't find a 3-way blade switch that can do that.

John, obviously . most of the time that i play my XV anymore is with that neck single coil. it just sounds so good in comparison to all my humbuckers.

Bob, i'm not sure what it is about that config that i don't like, but i've never found it suitable for any sound. i don't dig it on my dad's pre-CBS Telecaster, on my old Hohner LP copy, on my RG570, on my RG7621, or on my XV500. maybe it's the extra volume, or lack of presence?

[metalfiend666]

Ah yes, forgot it was a blade switch for a second there. Doh!

[scott from _actual time_]

Originally Posted by giannifive

Myself, I like the Ibanez H-H 5-way, with the exception of the middle position (both hums). I never use it for anything. I'd rather have the following:
1: neck in series
2: neck in parallel
3: one coil of neck
4: inner coil of neck and inner coil or bridge
5: bridge in parallel
Can you tell I love my strat sounds? I'm sure you could do this with a super switch, but I haven't pursued it any further than dreaming it up.

that's a pretty cool combo, that you could definitely do with a 24-pole superswitch. i wire my two-humbucker guitars with that exact setup, except the middle is the two outer coils for the notched-style Tele sound. i use a push/pull pot that changes position 1 to one coil of the neck and position 5 to one coil of the bridge.

Originally Posted by Leon

i want to rewire my RG7621... with a push/pull pot and a new 3 way blade switch:
push/pull pushed:
1. bridge in series
2. off
3. neck in series

push/pull pulled:
1. bridge in parallel
2. off
3. neck in parallel

i don't know if that's possible. the parallel wiring is very different from the series, because you have to separate the series link wires to switch a humbucker into parallel. so you'd need a multi-pole switch, like the 5-way 24-pole superswitch, but i don't know of anyone who makes a 3-way superswitch.

you could do it with a normal 3-way and _two_ push/pull pots, but the push/pull pots would change each humbucker from series to parallel--they would not change all switch positions in the way you have above. so you'd have to pull up both pots.

the closest i think you could get to doing it the way you said would be a 5-way setup that something like this:
push/pull down:
1. bridge in series
2. off
3. off
4. off
5. neck in series

push/pull up:
1. bridge in parallel
2. off
3. off
4. off
5. neck in parallel

you could make the middle position something in each case if you wanted--both humbuckers on, or some coil cut combination (inner coils or outer coils).

[giannifive]

Originally Posted by scott from _actual time_

that's a pretty cool combo, that you could definitely do with a 24-pole superswitch. i wire my two-humbucker guitars with that exact setup, except the middle is the two outer coils for the notched-style Tele sound. i use a push/pull pot that changes position 1 to one coil of the neck and position 5 to one coil of the bridge.

Hmm, I think I like yours better. I might have to try that out!

[TonyFlyingSquirrel]

Originally Posted by JPMDan

you can set the middle position to be inner coils like on the JPM's you might like that.

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